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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6759242" data-attributes="member: 8461">Which is a sure sign that you've overextended the metaphor, since it no longer applies anymore.No, you haven't. Kickstarter isn't a retail platform even if the companies that receive pledge money from it don't classify it as investment money; the way you know that is that Kickstarter cannot be used as a retail outlet, since they don't actually sell materials. You're the one who kept saying &quot;if I think of it as a pre-order, it's a pre-order.&quot; Just because you seem to have abandoned that particular line of thought doesn't mean you didn't try sticking to that particular gun before you found out it couldn't shoot.You haven't demonstrated that, though. All you've done is posit that the money is taxed as per income. That alone doesn't prove anything, except that crowd-funding is taxed differently from traditional investment funding. In other words, the whole accounting process shows that Kickstarter is not a retail outlet as far as trade laws are concerned.Again, &quot;crowd-funding works differently from traditional corporate investment&quot; does not equal &quot;Kickstarter is a retail outlet.&quot;You're just saying &quot;it's not X,&quot; and somehow jumping from that to &quot;therefore it's Y.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 6759242, member: 8461"] Which is a sure sign that you've overextended the metaphor, since it no longer applies anymore. No, you haven't. Kickstarter isn't a retail platform even if the companies that receive pledge money from it don't classify it as investment money; the way you know that is that Kickstarter cannot be used as a retail outlet, since they don't actually sell materials. You're the one who kept saying "if I think of it as a pre-order, it's a pre-order." Just because you seem to have abandoned that particular line of thought doesn't mean you didn't try sticking to that particular gun before you found out it couldn't shoot. You haven't demonstrated that, though. All you've done is posit that the money is taxed as per income. That alone doesn't prove anything, except that crowd-funding is taxed differently from traditional investment funding. In other words, the whole accounting process shows that Kickstarter is [b]not[/b] a retail outlet as far as trade laws are concerned. Again, "crowd-funding works differently from traditional corporate investment" does not equal "Kickstarter is a retail outlet." You're just saying "it's not X," and somehow jumping from that to "therefore it's Y." [/QUOTE]

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