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I just don't see why they even bothered with the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide.
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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6759531" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Replying to an argument with a "citation please" is a non-argument. It's akin to replying with a "nuh-uh" or a Monty Python "no it isn't". Unless you yourself are willing to throw up a counter citation or offer evidence yourself. I'm being dismissive of his dismissive-ness. </p><p></p><p>One party is arguing Kickstarters don't harm retailers. The other side is arguing they do. Either you argue from a purely logical and argument-based perspective and eschew citations (and thus forfeit the right to call for them) or both parties have to give citations. You don't call for a citation when you're not willing to offer one. </p><p></p><p>It's not like there's an absence of other voices on the subject: </p><p><a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1027085/kickstarters-effect-retailers-good-or-bad" target="_blank">https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1027085/kickstarters-effect-retailers-good-or-bad</a></p><p>Which includes the post:</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's also:</p><p><a href="http://rpgkickstarters.tumblr.com/retailers" target="_blank">http://rpgkickstarters.tumblr.com/retailers</a></p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/columns/businessofgamingretail/businessofgamingretail81.phtml" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/columns/businessofgamingretail/businessofgamingretail81.phtml</a></p><p><a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1307137/lets-talk-about-effects-kickstarter-exclusives-ret" target="_blank">https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1307137/lets-talk-about-effects-kickstarter-exclusives-ret</a></p><p></p><p>Has <em>Cards Against Humanity</em> been brought up yet? That strikes me as an interesting example for this debate, as a card game that really doesn't even need retail. They got attention through a successful Kickstarter, segued into a e-store, and keep all the money for themselves. It's actually hard for retailers to stock the game, with an approval process (friends with the former owner of a FLGS who couldn't get CAH in stock).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6759531, member: 37579"] Replying to an argument with a "citation please" is a non-argument. It's akin to replying with a "nuh-uh" or a Monty Python "no it isn't". Unless you yourself are willing to throw up a counter citation or offer evidence yourself. I'm being dismissive of his dismissive-ness. One party is arguing Kickstarters don't harm retailers. The other side is arguing they do. Either you argue from a purely logical and argument-based perspective and eschew citations (and thus forfeit the right to call for them) or both parties have to give citations. You don't call for a citation when you're not willing to offer one. It's not like there's an absence of other voices on the subject: [url]https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1027085/kickstarters-effect-retailers-good-or-bad[/url] Which includes the post: There's also: [url]http://rpgkickstarters.tumblr.com/retailers[/url] [url]http://www.rpg.net/columns/businessofgamingretail/businessofgamingretail81.phtml[/url] [url]https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1307137/lets-talk-about-effects-kickstarter-exclusives-ret[/url] Has [I]Cards Against Humanity[/I] been brought up yet? That strikes me as an interesting example for this debate, as a card game that really doesn't even need retail. They got attention through a successful Kickstarter, segued into a e-store, and keep all the money for themselves. It's actually hard for retailers to stock the game, with an approval process (friends with the former owner of a FLGS who couldn't get CAH in stock). [/QUOTE]
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