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I just don't see why they even bothered with the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide.
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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6761467" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Wait, you think that the only evidence that constitutes "data" is full disclosure of numbers? You actually think that a store owner making some comments that he thinks that the demand has dried up due to backer fulfillments has cost him business, as though that demand would ever have existed in the first place if the product hadn't been made, is data unto itself?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then maybe the whole issue of "data to back up his points" shouldn't have been raised to begin with. He has his opinions as a retailer, but if you actually read his blog posts, there's nothing in there that's anymore conclusive than what's been bandied back and forth here on the message boards. Saying "I didn't sell these Kickstarted books" doesn't give him any special insight as to <em>why</em> he didn't sell them; he claims that it's because the demand has been met already, but how he came to that conclusion - and what makes it definitive over any other presumption regarding why they didn't sell - is conspicuously absent. So that means that the entire idea of his "data" making logical sense doesn't pass even basic scrutiny, but that's not a big deal, since you admit that you can't back your point up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're the one who somehow took "data" to mean "opening the books" and "evidence" to mean "opinions about why X happened." I suppose if you wildly redefine terms to mean whatever you want them to mean, then that's going to look impossible, but for those of us who aren't changing terms willy-nilly, it's not that hard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please cite where I specifically asked for numbers (hint: you can't).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm baffled that you've conflated "data" with "show me your sales charts," but there we go.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Apparently it's easier for you to believe that a store owner knows exactly why his particular products don't sell - for literally every potential customer that hasn't bought them - than to entertain the notion that he just happens to have an opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You've demonstrated that you don't think it applies, though the rest of us still find it useful as a rule of thumb.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Apparently WotC is so insightful that they will always make the best business decisions possible in any given situation, acting without flaw in everything they do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 6761467, member: 8461"] Wait, you think that the only evidence that constitutes "data" is full disclosure of numbers? You actually think that a store owner making some comments that he thinks that the demand has dried up due to backer fulfillments has cost him business, as though that demand would ever have existed in the first place if the product hadn't been made, is data unto itself? Then maybe the whole issue of "data to back up his points" shouldn't have been raised to begin with. He has his opinions as a retailer, but if you actually read his blog posts, there's nothing in there that's anymore conclusive than what's been bandied back and forth here on the message boards. Saying "I didn't sell these Kickstarted books" doesn't give him any special insight as to [i]why[/i] he didn't sell them; he claims that it's because the demand has been met already, but how he came to that conclusion - and what makes it definitive over any other presumption regarding why they didn't sell - is conspicuously absent. So that means that the entire idea of his "data" making logical sense doesn't pass even basic scrutiny, but that's not a big deal, since you admit that you can't back your point up. You're the one who somehow took "data" to mean "opening the books" and "evidence" to mean "opinions about why X happened." I suppose if you wildly redefine terms to mean whatever you want them to mean, then that's going to look impossible, but for those of us who aren't changing terms willy-nilly, it's not that hard. Please cite where I specifically asked for numbers (hint: you can't). I'm baffled that you've conflated "data" with "show me your sales charts," but there we go. Apparently it's easier for you to believe that a store owner knows exactly why his particular products don't sell - for literally every potential customer that hasn't bought them - than to entertain the notion that he just happens to have an opinion. You've demonstrated that you don't think it applies, though the rest of us still find it useful as a rule of thumb. Apparently WotC is so insightful that they will always make the best business decisions possible in any given situation, acting without flaw in everything they do. [/QUOTE]
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