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I just got D20 Future and I love it! [hugs his copy]
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<blockquote data-quote="SpiralBound" data-source="post: 1697716" data-attributes="member: 8396"><p>Umm... I think that your quickie math may have been a little too quick. While a straight up comparative division of the page count into the retail price will yield those two figures, I don't think that it really means anything. First off your formula (retail price / page count) doesn't take all the variables into account. What about the number of copies printed? I'm willing to be that the print run for D20 Modern was bigger than D20 Future. What about the facts that printing costs continuously increase over time and that the D20 Modern was printed a while before D20 Future?</p><p></p><p>I don't know all the factors that went into the production & printing costs versus the retail price, I also suspect that neither does anyone else on this board. I think that debating what the page count to retail price ratio should have been is bordering on the ridiculous. They could double the retail price of any RPG book on the market and we'd still be getting excellent value for the money. How can I make such a statement? Easily, just compare it to ANY other common recreational activity that 4 or more people could enjoy.</p><p></p><p>Let's assume 4 people, partaking of an activity for 6 hours, twice a month. (I personally game once per week on average, but I also know people who only game once every month) D20 Future costs $35 plus apparently you also need D20 Modern ($45? I forget) Let's bump them up to 40 and 50 to cover misc like pencils, scrap paper, and character sheets. then give everyone a $6 dice budget. Assuming that the average campaign lasts 6 months and that we're only going to use these two books for one campaign before they mysteriously disintegrate, we still end up with 72 hours of use from $114 dollars worth of equipment. That's six months of entertainment for four people that costs approx. $1.53 per hour. Shall we compare that to half a year of amateur sports? Going to 72 hours worth of theatre or even rental movies? Going to a dance bar or pool hall twice a month for 6 months? C'mon people, complaining about the price of a RPG book is just plain silly!!!</p><p></p><p>P.S. I know that my calculations are also simplistic and silly, but I think that fact only further proves my point. A line of arguement regarding a RPG book that is predicated upon the dollar value of the book itself is just a waste of time that could be better spent on making meaningful comments on the value of the books' actual content, not it's pagecount versus retail price ratio... Sheesh! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SpiralBound, post: 1697716, member: 8396"] Umm... I think that your quickie math may have been a little too quick. While a straight up comparative division of the page count into the retail price will yield those two figures, I don't think that it really means anything. First off your formula (retail price / page count) doesn't take all the variables into account. What about the number of copies printed? I'm willing to be that the print run for D20 Modern was bigger than D20 Future. What about the facts that printing costs continuously increase over time and that the D20 Modern was printed a while before D20 Future? I don't know all the factors that went into the production & printing costs versus the retail price, I also suspect that neither does anyone else on this board. I think that debating what the page count to retail price ratio should have been is bordering on the ridiculous. They could double the retail price of any RPG book on the market and we'd still be getting excellent value for the money. How can I make such a statement? Easily, just compare it to ANY other common recreational activity that 4 or more people could enjoy. Let's assume 4 people, partaking of an activity for 6 hours, twice a month. (I personally game once per week on average, but I also know people who only game once every month) D20 Future costs $35 plus apparently you also need D20 Modern ($45? I forget) Let's bump them up to 40 and 50 to cover misc like pencils, scrap paper, and character sheets. then give everyone a $6 dice budget. Assuming that the average campaign lasts 6 months and that we're only going to use these two books for one campaign before they mysteriously disintegrate, we still end up with 72 hours of use from $114 dollars worth of equipment. That's six months of entertainment for four people that costs approx. $1.53 per hour. Shall we compare that to half a year of amateur sports? Going to 72 hours worth of theatre or even rental movies? Going to a dance bar or pool hall twice a month for 6 months? C'mon people, complaining about the price of a RPG book is just plain silly!!! P.S. I know that my calculations are also simplistic and silly, but I think that fact only further proves my point. A line of arguement regarding a RPG book that is predicated upon the dollar value of the book itself is just a waste of time that could be better spent on making meaningful comments on the value of the books' actual content, not it's pagecount versus retail price ratio... Sheesh! :confused: [/QUOTE]
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