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<blockquote data-quote="Riastlin" data-source="post: 5307070" data-attributes="member: 94022">Honestly, a party comprised solely of strikers is almost always going to be just a few bad rolls away from a PC death.&nbsp; If it didn't happen here, it likely would have happened elsewhere soon enough.&nbsp;That being said, having now had a chance to look at the Incubus entry in the compendium, I agree that perhaps a better course of action would have been to have the incubi capture (or even flat out kill) the PC in question and then one of them take the shape of the fallen PC.&nbsp; This could have even been accomplished by either having the &quot;PC&quot; take a dive off the tower, or simply run like hell out of the tower.&nbsp; &nbsp;The beauty of this plan would be that the player could keep playing her &quot;PC&quot; only now she also has another (likely much darker) agenda.&nbsp; This could actually be a ton of fun to play for the player in question.&nbsp; The only real problem with this choice would be doing it in such a way as to not tip off the rest of the party.&nbsp; This is where I think tossing the PC off the tower helps.&nbsp; DM &quot;rolls&quot; and the PC miraculously only takes 12 damage (or whatever is enough to just keep the PC up).&nbsp; Afterward you simply pull the player aside and tell her what's up.&nbsp; &nbsp;Suddenly you now have a really interesting campaign arc, the player gets to continue player her PC, and the party eventually gets to seek out vengeance when they realize they've been duped -- and possibly rescue the real PC.&nbsp;Of course, its real easy for me to come up with all of this since I have been reading this thread and had some time to think things through.&nbsp; Its a lot harder to improvise this though.&nbsp; Given that its entirely likely that the DM did not consider this course of action at the time, I really have no problem with the incubi tossing the unconscious PC off the ledge.&nbsp; After all they had shown that they didn't want anyone in there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Riastlin, post: 5307070, member: 94022"] Honestly, a party comprised solely of strikers is almost always going to be just a few bad rolls away from a PC death. If it didn't happen here, it likely would have happened elsewhere soon enough. That being said, having now had a chance to look at the Incubus entry in the compendium, I agree that perhaps a [I]better[/I] course of action would have been to have the incubi capture (or even flat out kill) the PC in question and then one of them take the shape of the fallen PC. This could have even been accomplished by either having the "PC" take a dive off the tower, or simply run like hell out of the tower. The beauty of this plan would be that the player could keep playing her "PC" only now she also has another (likely much darker) agenda. This could actually be a ton of fun to play for the player in question. The only real problem with this choice would be doing it in such a way as to not tip off the rest of the party. This is where I think tossing the PC off the tower helps. DM "rolls" and the PC miraculously only takes 12 damage (or whatever is enough to just keep the PC up). Afterward you simply pull the player aside and tell her what's up. Suddenly you now have a really interesting campaign arc, the player gets to continue player her PC, and the party eventually gets to seek out vengeance when they realize they've been duped -- and possibly rescue the real PC. Of course, its real easy for me to come up with all of this since I have been reading this thread and had some time to think things through. Its a lot harder to improvise this though. Given that its entirely likely that the DM did not consider this course of action at the time, I really have no problem with the incubi tossing the unconscious PC off the ledge. After all they had shown that they didn't want anyone in there. [/QUOTE]

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