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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5308298" data-attributes="member: 78116">There were 2 creatures attacking initially with a third technically removed from play. That is less than six at the time there were only 2 characters on the roof. So it's not actually that bad at the time.Also if it WAS half a dozen of them, facing six daemons that are definitely going to kill me or a fall that will potentially kill me, so this isn't a hard decision to me at all. Unless you're metagaming heavily like you are and assuming the DM will have the daemons spare you mercy or not outright just tear you to pieces easily when they hugely outnumber you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> That would, in the situation you identify it as being a game inherently so the actual monsters would be less lethal - completely against the fluff and concept of daemons as a whole - than a drop that you've already seen three of your companions survive.The general shouting and whole concept of "They aren't actually dead", plus the fact they are being forced to go over the edge to notice that in fact, their friends would be alive and moving down there. Good to see you're moving the goalposts now though as your original argument is firmly crippled.Three characters already did the impossible, disproving your argument entirely as without merit in this case. The idea of you and I surviving such a fall is one thing, someone who is especially hard and trained as an adventurer is - that's entirely a different story. Also the OP never specified how many rounds it was between the first two going over and the final two PCs failing their saves. She could have had more time, but the time given is still more than enough and a few shouts or similar would indicate they were still alive (those are free actions, BTW and what else do they have to do anyway at the time?).Except for the whole them being alive aspect after surviving a fall you claim is impossible three individual times. That's not impossible to me.There are numerous individual reasons this never comes to metagaming whatsoever. Personally, you're the one metagaming in this situation now because I dispute heavily the character wouldn't be able to realize the others survived in this situation - given they are going over the edge enough to get a good view.100 ft is hardly out of a persons sight and many spells have such a range. Being able to see the companions below who might be seriously hurt, but actually alive gives a strong argument that standing and dying to four daemons is a dumber idea. One of us has a suggestion that gets their character killed - who would you listen to? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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