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<blockquote data-quote="Incendax" data-source="post: 5309057" data-attributes="member: 7849"><p>I really wanted to wait until the player showed up before I posted again, but she has fallen ill and has not yet managed to take a look at this thread. I am still encouraging her to do so at her earliest convenience. In the meantime I will answer some questions.</p><p></p><p>Part of the skill challenge involved an Arcana check to determine information about the monster. The Sorcerer had a moderate success at this check and I read the name, description, and arcana entries for the incubus. I did not read their powers or saves. This was prior to any combat.</p><p></p><p>I do allow players to check rules if we suspect something is amiss, but at that particular moment neither of us did. </p><p></p><p>In the first death, the player went unconscious then regenerated back to health. The player fought enemies and went unconscious again then regenerated back to health. The player tried to chase a fleeing enemy that was away from the main fighting and had enough OA's happen that she went unconscious again.</p><p></p><p>In the second death, the player resisted dominate twice (I rolled two natural 1s against her) before she was ever successfully dominated. She saved against every dominate at the end of her turn but the monsters were lucky and regained their dominate so from the middle of the battle onward she never got her own action to attempt to save herself. The incubus always tried at least once per round to throw her off the cliff. The round she died involved four incubus and their actions were to Dominate + Claw + Claw + Bull Rush.</p><p></p><p>The battle was only avoidable by succeeding the skill challenge or doing some damn good Bluff/Intimidate/Diplomacy rolls. The party was in a demon infested castle with various factions that were fighting each other. They made a deal with an unsavory but narcissistic demon that exchanged one night of entertainment (non-sexual) to avoid a potentially dangerous battle. The ranger agreed to the deal, and the next day she returned apparently unharmed. A short while later they discovered that the ranger had been replaced by a demonic entity that had changed shape as the original but had no nefarious intentions whatsoever (the player was quite surprised). The original had been so 'conveniently' brought to the tower of the narcissistic demon's rival where the party had to battle/sneak their way to the top and liberate the original Ranger. Avoiding the battle would have meant abandoning the friend to the rival demon.</p><p></p><p>What the player meant about 'avoiding opportunities to hurt other players' was that one incubus on the ground with three characters took an opportunity attack to fly back up to the top of the tower where it's nest was instead of stay and fight. This incubus join the battle against the player who was still up in the tower and died. Another instance was when a second incubus at the at the base of the tower did not attack an unconscious player but charged a conscious player.</p><p></p><p>Did I miss any questions?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Incendax, post: 5309057, member: 7849"] I really wanted to wait until the player showed up before I posted again, but she has fallen ill and has not yet managed to take a look at this thread. I am still encouraging her to do so at her earliest convenience. In the meantime I will answer some questions. Part of the skill challenge involved an Arcana check to determine information about the monster. The Sorcerer had a moderate success at this check and I read the name, description, and arcana entries for the incubus. I did not read their powers or saves. This was prior to any combat. I do allow players to check rules if we suspect something is amiss, but at that particular moment neither of us did. In the first death, the player went unconscious then regenerated back to health. The player fought enemies and went unconscious again then regenerated back to health. The player tried to chase a fleeing enemy that was away from the main fighting and had enough OA's happen that she went unconscious again. In the second death, the player resisted dominate twice (I rolled two natural 1s against her) before she was ever successfully dominated. She saved against every dominate at the end of her turn but the monsters were lucky and regained their dominate so from the middle of the battle onward she never got her own action to attempt to save herself. The incubus always tried at least once per round to throw her off the cliff. The round she died involved four incubus and their actions were to Dominate + Claw + Claw + Bull Rush. The battle was only avoidable by succeeding the skill challenge or doing some damn good Bluff/Intimidate/Diplomacy rolls. The party was in a demon infested castle with various factions that were fighting each other. They made a deal with an unsavory but narcissistic demon that exchanged one night of entertainment (non-sexual) to avoid a potentially dangerous battle. The ranger agreed to the deal, and the next day she returned apparently unharmed. A short while later they discovered that the ranger had been replaced by a demonic entity that had changed shape as the original but had no nefarious intentions whatsoever (the player was quite surprised). The original had been so 'conveniently' brought to the tower of the narcissistic demon's rival where the party had to battle/sneak their way to the top and liberate the original Ranger. Avoiding the battle would have meant abandoning the friend to the rival demon. What the player meant about 'avoiding opportunities to hurt other players' was that one incubus on the ground with three characters took an opportunity attack to fly back up to the top of the tower where it's nest was instead of stay and fight. This incubus join the battle against the player who was still up in the tower and died. Another instance was when a second incubus at the at the base of the tower did not attack an unconscious player but charged a conscious player. Did I miss any questions? [/QUOTE]
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