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<blockquote data-quote="NJC207" data-source="post: 5310507" data-attributes="member: 94774"><p><strong>I'm the PC</strong></p><p></p><p>So, I'm the PC who has apparently started a raging thread fight among you guys. I would like to start by saying BS to my DM...I got the email this morning telling me about this thread's existence. So I've just now read through everyone's posts and I would like to straighten some things out. </p><p> </p><p>First of all, some of you seem to think I hate the DM for daring to kill me. That's not true. I've played in games with him for about 2 years now. He is a fine DM, one of the best I've played with, and I enjoy his stories greatly. I count him as a personal friend. He has killed me before in other games, and it does not effect my view of him in the least. It is traditional for our group to have a "Favorite, Least Favorite" discussion after each game. We all use the information in this time to improve the game experience for all of us, discuss rules, and even make house rules. We tend to play long campaigns and develop detailed characters. Because of this, we always try to resurrect dead characters instead of creating new ones. I did comment in this time about dying twice in one session, as I found it very unusual. </p><p> </p><p>The first time my character died was, I will admit, a stupid error on my part. I was surrounded and had regeneration 20, negated to 10 by ongoing damage. The fight had been slowly shifting from the deck of a ship to the water. I was late in inititive, and the other 3 PCs had already abandoned ship to chase the main villin into the water, leaving me on the deck with minions and deamons. I was ajacent to three minions, so I thought, who did a static 4 points of damage. I was planning to follow my group into the water. I could take the OAs and get an action against the villan in the water, or shift away, take a move action as a standard, and end my turn in the water. I decided to take the OAs. My error was this: a deamon that was hovering at 6 squares above me had dropped to one square--and thus adjacent. Two minions attacked and missed. The third attacked and hit for 4 damage. The Deamon rolled a 20, putting me at exactly 36 neg...my bloodied is 33. So yeah, it was dumb of me. I completely take the blame for that death, and was willing to sit out the remainder of the game, as I thought I would. </p><p> </p><p>The DM kindly allowed my group to make a deal with the devil...literally...and I was restored to life after only missing a couple hours of game time. I of course had the normal death penalty. We then made our way up the tower where we stumbled upon the incubui. We each made stealth checks individually in the order we were walking. Three of us successfully made it to the other side of the room. The fourth member of our party attracted their attention, and was immediately surrounded by them, forcing us into the fight, as we had to return to free her. This time, I was first in inititive, and the incubi were last. I remained free from dominate for the majority of the encounter. PCs at inititive 2 and 3 were the first to be thrown over the wall, and their dominators went with them, leaving 2 PCs and three incubi in the room. PC 4 was then dominated and also thrown over the wall on the Incubus' turn. At the start of my turn, I was alone in the room with 2 incubi. I'm not a complete idiot: I ran. I made it across the room and to the door. My next turn would have taken me down the stairs and back to my allies. It was at this juncture I was first dominated, and forced to walk back into the room. </p><p> </p><p>The next three rounds have been beat to death, so I will not reiterate them. But I did try to escape. The thought of purposely failing my save never occured to me. I knew the incubi worked on recharge, and I was at near full heath. I saved vs the first dominate, and knew the second had not recharged yet. I thought I would have a round to escape, then the third arrived and dominated. Once again, the other one did not recharge, so when I saved, I thought I would have time to escape or heal. Then the fourth appeared, resulting in my death. My feeling singled out did not start until then. The fourth took an OA in order to reach me. The third abandoned a fallen PC and passed 2 other PCs to reach me. I felt that that single point could have been played out better, as I had already sat out half of the current game. </p><p> </p><p>We have a house rule when horrible things happen called "One Fudge Per Game." The DM suggests it when things go in a horrible direction, and the group as a whole votes on weather the occasion is worthy of it. I felt the second death of the same character in the same session was worthy of it, but it was not mentioned. I do not regret dying, or failing the encounter. I regret that I had to sit out half of a session, and this week, when we play again, I will have to sit out the first half of it while my PC's fate is decided. We have a saying in our group, "the only unfun way to play is not to play at all." So of course when asked what the low part of the session was for me, I had to say, "Not getting to play." I do not hold my DM accountable for my deaths, I know I could have played it better, especially in the first case. He is my friend and my favorite DM, and that has not changed. But I feel that he can learn that sometimes, you can bend the rules if it means your PCs can play, and therefore, enjoy the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NJC207, post: 5310507, member: 94774"] [b]I'm the PC[/b] So, I'm the PC who has apparently started a raging thread fight among you guys. I would like to start by saying BS to my DM...I got the email this morning telling me about this thread's existence. So I've just now read through everyone's posts and I would like to straighten some things out. First of all, some of you seem to think I hate the DM for daring to kill me. That's not true. I've played in games with him for about 2 years now. He is a fine DM, one of the best I've played with, and I enjoy his stories greatly. I count him as a personal friend. He has killed me before in other games, and it does not effect my view of him in the least. It is traditional for our group to have a "Favorite, Least Favorite" discussion after each game. We all use the information in this time to improve the game experience for all of us, discuss rules, and even make house rules. We tend to play long campaigns and develop detailed characters. Because of this, we always try to resurrect dead characters instead of creating new ones. I did comment in this time about dying twice in one session, as I found it very unusual. The first time my character died was, I will admit, a stupid error on my part. I was surrounded and had regeneration 20, negated to 10 by ongoing damage. The fight had been slowly shifting from the deck of a ship to the water. I was late in inititive, and the other 3 PCs had already abandoned ship to chase the main villin into the water, leaving me on the deck with minions and deamons. I was ajacent to three minions, so I thought, who did a static 4 points of damage. I was planning to follow my group into the water. I could take the OAs and get an action against the villan in the water, or shift away, take a move action as a standard, and end my turn in the water. I decided to take the OAs. My error was this: a deamon that was hovering at 6 squares above me had dropped to one square--and thus adjacent. Two minions attacked and missed. The third attacked and hit for 4 damage. The Deamon rolled a 20, putting me at exactly 36 neg...my bloodied is 33. So yeah, it was dumb of me. I completely take the blame for that death, and was willing to sit out the remainder of the game, as I thought I would. The DM kindly allowed my group to make a deal with the devil...literally...and I was restored to life after only missing a couple hours of game time. I of course had the normal death penalty. We then made our way up the tower where we stumbled upon the incubui. We each made stealth checks individually in the order we were walking. Three of us successfully made it to the other side of the room. The fourth member of our party attracted their attention, and was immediately surrounded by them, forcing us into the fight, as we had to return to free her. This time, I was first in inititive, and the incubi were last. I remained free from dominate for the majority of the encounter. PCs at inititive 2 and 3 were the first to be thrown over the wall, and their dominators went with them, leaving 2 PCs and three incubi in the room. PC 4 was then dominated and also thrown over the wall on the Incubus' turn. At the start of my turn, I was alone in the room with 2 incubi. I'm not a complete idiot: I ran. I made it across the room and to the door. My next turn would have taken me down the stairs and back to my allies. It was at this juncture I was first dominated, and forced to walk back into the room. The next three rounds have been beat to death, so I will not reiterate them. But I did try to escape. The thought of purposely failing my save never occured to me. I knew the incubi worked on recharge, and I was at near full heath. I saved vs the first dominate, and knew the second had not recharged yet. I thought I would have a round to escape, then the third arrived and dominated. Once again, the other one did not recharge, so when I saved, I thought I would have time to escape or heal. Then the fourth appeared, resulting in my death. My feeling singled out did not start until then. The fourth took an OA in order to reach me. The third abandoned a fallen PC and passed 2 other PCs to reach me. I felt that that single point could have been played out better, as I had already sat out half of the current game. We have a house rule when horrible things happen called "One Fudge Per Game." The DM suggests it when things go in a horrible direction, and the group as a whole votes on weather the occasion is worthy of it. I felt the second death of the same character in the same session was worthy of it, but it was not mentioned. I do not regret dying, or failing the encounter. I regret that I had to sit out half of a session, and this week, when we play again, I will have to sit out the first half of it while my PC's fate is decided. We have a saying in our group, "the only unfun way to play is not to play at all." So of course when asked what the low part of the session was for me, I had to say, "Not getting to play." I do not hold my DM accountable for my deaths, I know I could have played it better, especially in the first case. He is my friend and my favorite DM, and that has not changed. But I feel that he can learn that sometimes, you can bend the rules if it means your PCs can play, and therefore, enjoy the game. [/QUOTE]
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