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<blockquote data-quote="broghammerj" data-source="post: 5728394" data-attributes="member: 1869">I look it at using the character perspective.&nbsp; This generally results in two scenarios for the wizard when he wakes up in the morning (note the rogue in his party):1. My wizard roles over and wonders...who is that random chap I picked up in the bar for the purpose of killing things and taking their stuff?&nbsp; What was his name?&nbsp; Hopefully he is proficient in helping me assault the evil lords castle.&nbsp; Oh well, lets see.&nbsp; I'll need fly to scale over the walls, knock to get through the doors, etc.versus2. Ah, it's good to have my friend, Proficius, with me.&nbsp; All those years together.&nbsp; Remember the time he got us out of that jail in that ramshackle town.&nbsp; Or even better was the time he jumped from the balcony using the curtains to reach the stage in the middle of a performance.&nbsp; Ah well, I better focus at the task at hand.&nbsp; Rumors of the evil lord's demon spirits.&nbsp; Only I can smite them with my lightening....etc.Never found utility spells to be a problem.&nbsp; I also wasn't an a-hole planning to ruin the rogue or fighter player's time at the table.&nbsp; They do their thing and I do mine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="broghammerj, post: 5728394, member: 1869"] I look it at using the character perspective. This generally results in two scenarios for the wizard when he wakes up in the morning (note the rogue in his party): 1. My wizard roles over and wonders...who is that random chap I picked up in the bar for the purpose of killing things and taking their stuff? What was his name? Hopefully he is proficient in helping me assault the evil lords castle. Oh well, lets see. I'll need fly to scale over the walls, knock to get through the doors, etc. versus 2. Ah, it's good to have my friend, Proficius, with me. All those years together. Remember the time he got us out of that jail in that ramshackle town. Or even better was the time he jumped from the balcony using the curtains to reach the stage in the middle of a performance. Ah well, I better focus at the task at hand. Rumors of the evil lord's demon spirits. Only I can smite them with my lightening....etc. Never found utility spells to be a problem. I also wasn't an a-hole planning to ruin the rogue or fighter player's time at the table. They do their thing and I do mine. [/QUOTE]

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