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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 5729095" data-attributes="member: 762">I'm more talking about PCs having a special skill - but other PCs having that same skill or its equivilant and then on top of that having many other things they can do. If magic allows for a wizard to have enough utility to marginalise a rogue and still do his schtick effectively - then IMO that's a bug.I believe 3e lends itself too easily in this direction. There are certainly ways around it and it can be dealt with, but if A DM isn't looking for it magic can easily marginalize a rogue's role in the party.3e went quite far in making sure this was not a frequent occurrence - especially in later iterations (reserve feats etc.) Frankly I don't remember the last time a mage was out of resources in 3e before the fighter was too low on HPs to continue. Whereas I seem to remember it happening in 1e and 2e all the time (not that I remember the mages complaining much, a 1e or 2e mage was only out of resources after making a serious contribution to the adventure).</blockquote>