I like 3E, but I miss...

[Mouseferatu]

Not sure why I'm on the "old edition" kick today, but here we go.

This is the thread for you to reveal your deep, dark secrets. I think most of us enjoy playing 3.x, but come on. We've all got the skeletons in the closet (until we can find a cleric to turn them).

So come on, I dare you. Finish this sentence:

"As much as I like 3E, when thinking back to 1st or 2nd edition AD&D, I have to admit that I miss _____________."

 

[Dirigible]

Fighters being a punnishment, rather than an attractive multiclass choice.

"You are a bad paladin! I curse you to forever more be the lowest of the low...... a fighter!"
"Noooooo!"

 

[Ranger REG]

Would "nothing" be a qualified answer in the blank?

If there is one thing that I miss, it would be the "Birthright political system."

 

[the Jester]

"As much as I like 3E, when thinking back to 1st or 2nd edition AD&D, I have to admit that I miss _____________."

...the potion miscibility table!!!!

 

[maddman75]

The Forgotten Realms when they were still cool. The gray box, from the end of 1e. When Elminster was like a 10th level mage. When there was no time of troubles, no Cyric, no Drizzt, no Seven Sisters, and the gods of evil were Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul. Does anyone else remember the fantastic parchment pages i that boxed set?

 

[Dark Jezter]

I miss THAC0. I mean, come on, we all know that an abstract, over-complicated system is vastly superior to the simple, straightforward system used by 3e.

Okay, here's a serious one....

I like 3e (love it, actually), but I miss there only being one or two elf subraces. Over the last decade or so, the number of elf subraces has kept growing and growing until it's reached a downright absurd level.

 

[maddman75]

That's all about what you let into your game. THere's a total of two subraces IMC, both homebrewed. (of course, one is just 'regular elf')

 

[the Jester]

The Forgotten Realms when they were still cool. The gray box, from the end of 1e. When Elminster was like a 10th level mage. When there was no time of troubles, no Cyric, no Drizzt, no Seven Sisters, and the gods of evil were Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul. Does anyone else remember the fantastic parchment pages i that boxed set?

The only FR that I enjoyed. Sigh...

Yeah, actually one of the coolest things about the FR was the Bane-Bhaal-Myrkul thing. I remember this paragraph about the differences between the three with great fondness...

 

[the Jester]

I miss THAC0. I mean, come on, we all know that an abstract, over-complicated system is vastly superior to the simple, straightforward system used by 3e.

Bumper sticker idea:

"THAC0 kept the riffraff out."

That's long been a joke in my group; just mutter that phrase and you'll evoke gales of laughter.

 

[rushlight]

Since converting over to 3e, I've lost two players who would finish that sentence like this: "When thinking back to 1st or 2nd edition AD&D, I have to admit that I miss how abusable it was."

I curse Skills and Powers to the Ninth Layer of Hell!

I miss the number of good, fluffy books done in 2nd edition. Thankfully, they can still be used, with some modification.