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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 1191706" data-attributes="member: 307"><p></p><p></p><p>After the first year I played, I don't think I saw any human characters played by anyone who wasn't me. And I played 1st Edition from 1978 through 1989. And the overpowered <em>human</em> strategy was to dual class. Which was just like multiclassing, with none of the drawbacks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except now, for the most part, PCs of similar experience are fairly balanced against one another. As opposed to an elven Ftr7/MU8 supposedly being equivalent in power to a human Ftr8.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Demonstrate. Many people make this claim, but no one yet has backed it up with an example. Make a 28 point character with appropriate wealth that is wildly unbalanced. Use 3.5. Core rules only.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then your party missed the biggest power-up to exist in the history of D&D, of any edition. The multiclassing (and dualclassing) rules were not just ripe for abuse, if they had not been part of the 1e PHB and been proposed by someone as an add-on to the system, they would have been tagged as one of the worst examples of abuse one could have thought of.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do I miss about 1e and 2e? Not much of any significance. There is a reason I switched between D&D (for players) and other games (for value) through the 1980s, and stopped playing D&D altogether in 1990 or so and played other, better designed games that weren't rife with abusable rules.</p><p></p><p>I miss some of the silly tables in the 1e DMG. I don't miss <em>anything</em> about the pile of rehashed drek that was 2e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 1191706, member: 307"] [b][/b] After the first year I played, I don't think I saw any human characters played by anyone who wasn't me. And I played 1st Edition from 1978 through 1989. And the overpowered [i]human[/i] strategy was to dual class. Which was just like multiclassing, with none of the drawbacks. Except now, for the most part, PCs of similar experience are fairly balanced against one another. As opposed to an elven Ftr7/MU8 supposedly being equivalent in power to a human Ftr8. Demonstrate. Many people make this claim, but no one yet has backed it up with an example. Make a 28 point character with appropriate wealth that is wildly unbalanced. Use 3.5. Core rules only. Then your party missed the biggest power-up to exist in the history of D&D, of any edition. The multiclassing (and dualclassing) rules were not just ripe for abuse, if they had not been part of the 1e PHB and been proposed by someone as an add-on to the system, they would have been tagged as one of the worst examples of abuse one could have thought of. [b][/b] What do I miss about 1e and 2e? Not much of any significance. There is a reason I switched between D&D (for players) and other games (for value) through the 1980s, and stopped playing D&D altogether in 1990 or so and played other, better designed games that weren't rife with abusable rules. I miss some of the silly tables in the 1e DMG. I don't miss [i]anything[/i] about the pile of rehashed drek that was 2e. [/QUOTE]
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