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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4682899" data-attributes="member: 710">So you say he's on the verge of having badwrongfun or what? I do not agree with his goals. But this is the house rules forum, and if someone is asking for a house rule, he wants help creating the house rule, not help in not creating a house rule at all and being educated on his &quot;wrongness&quot;!---The drawbacks of removing at-wills would be that you force people into using weapons and spending ability score points (or good rolls) on abilities they normally would not need. This can have side effects like combat taking longer, since once Encounter are gone, the character is down to weaker attacks.You will want a way to countermand this. You might want to be more generous with ability points or allow using &quot;non-standard&quot; ability scores.A different idea I had would require a lot of work, so it's more &quot;academical&quot;. Basically, over the tiers, characters become more &quot;magical&quot;, so to speak. You start off as a pretty martial character, but depending on your class, you might get an arcane or divine encounter or daily power. At Paragon Tier, Mages and Clerics finally get their first arcane/divine At-Will, and at Epic Tier, all their At-Wills are divine or arcane. But I think this would both disrupt the role and the power source system (the latter not such a big problem in my mind, the first one would be.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4682899, member: 710"] So you say he's on the verge of having badwrongfun or what? I do not agree with his goals. But this is the house rules forum, and if someone is asking for a house rule, he wants help creating the house rule, not help in not creating a house rule at all and being educated on his "wrongness"! --- The drawbacks of removing at-wills would be that you force people into using weapons and spending ability score points (or good rolls) on abilities they normally would not need. This can have side effects like combat taking longer, since once Encounter are gone, the character is down to weaker attacks. You will want a way to countermand this. You might want to be more generous with ability points or allow using "non-standard" ability scores. A different idea I had would require a lot of work, so it's more "academical". Basically, over the tiers, characters become more "magical", so to speak. You start off as a pretty martial character, but depending on your class, you might get an arcane or divine encounter or daily power. At Paragon Tier, Mages and Clerics finally get their first arcane/divine At-Will, and at Epic Tier, all their At-Wills are divine or arcane. But I think this would both disrupt the role and the power source system (the latter not such a big problem in my mind, the first one would be.) [/QUOTE]

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