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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9006025" data-attributes="member: 6779196">I didn't say you're not a fan of warlocks if you disagree with me. I said it seems like you want to like warlocks but don't like how they actually play. Am I wrong?I find Vancian casting boring because it quickly becomes an excercise in bookkeeping, and because the gameplay doesn't reproduce the kinds of magic-using characters I want to play. I don't enjoy managing a bunch of spell slots of different levels, nor do I enjoy managing magic as a per-day resource.That's your opinion. And that's what makes it sound like you don't like warlocks. I do like having two spell slots that I can recover easily multiple times throughout an adventuring day. I like having a small, focused spell list. I like having a reliable at-will damage ability, a few utility abilities, and one or two big spells per encounter. That's way, way more fun for me than micromanaging all these slots that only cast under-leveled spells anyway.Sure, but if all you ever said about the prequels was negative, someone could be forgiven for thinking you don't actually like them. If you say you like the warlock, then I guess you like the warlock, but to me that's a little surprising since you seem to only have bad things to say about it.Pact of the Blade is pretty lacking, sure, I don't disagree with that. I don't think making warlocks half casters fixes that, or has any effect on it at all. Giving all warlocks medium armor proficiency, making thirsting blade an automatic part of pact of the blade, and also letting warlocks use their spellcasting bonus to attack with their pact blade do go a long way towards improving the melee warlock, and those are all changes I like from this packet. I've said several times now I like all of these changes except dropping pact magic for half-casting.Awesome! Sounds like a cool character and a great example of why warlocks are awesome.Well, yeah, that's what the warlock's spell slots are for.Cool!But half-casters get access higher spell levels more slowly. And they have to deal with the godawful neovancian casting system. These are both huge blows to the warlock's fun factor, in my opinion. Dealbreaking blows, in fact.Right, in other words, half-casters are not effective as spellcasters, which is not something I want for warlocks.I definitely wouldn't have taken shield on a warlock, no. This is one of the ways in which they played differently from other casters, and their distinctiveness is something I want preserved. That's a higher priority for me than... uhh... getting to cast shield effectively.I don't need to playtest this warlock to know what playing a Vancian half-caster is like. I've played plenty of them, it's not something I want for my warlocks. It's not something I want for my rangers either, but I've accepted that class isn't for me. If warlocks become half-casters too, they won't be for me any more either, and at that point I'd rather just play a different game, where more of the options are for me.</blockquote>

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