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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9021093" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I don't think that is what NC is talking about. He will latch on to it after you said it, but given his prior explanation that's not what he meant. I am happy to answer your question below because it's crucially linked to the "we'll get to" part.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given the spell progression list he provides, which is definitely not half-caster but around 3/4 caster leaning more towards full caster than half-caster, I don't see how you can claim that.</p><p></p><p>Of course it's not like a full caster AND all the other stuff the Warlock gets. As Treantmonk explained in the video, they now get the full Arcana list of spells and a lot more spell preps. If they also got all the other Warlock stuff AND full caster they would overshadow every other caster in the game by a mile.</p><p></p><p>They get a bit better than 3/4 caster. Which is a lot. A whole lot. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not going to play that cherry picking game of 5th level, which is precisely what you just did. It's funny that the argument I was responding to what Treantmonk didn't look at "the whole" class and then you respond with a cherry picked level to make a point about the whole class.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your request for a timestamp comes in here. He gives you his spell progression for the Warlock near the end where his initial take is you use some non-spell selections and some spell selections, swap out Mystic Arcanum selections where appropriate, and can lay out the spellcaster progression for those choices. Start the video around 41:30. Treantmonk lays out the progression, and there is no doubt round by round you can see a TON of spells they can cast. WAY more than the characterization your giving it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9021093, member: 2525"] I don't think that is what NC is talking about. He will latch on to it after you said it, but given his prior explanation that's not what he meant. I am happy to answer your question below because it's crucially linked to the "we'll get to" part. Given the spell progression list he provides, which is definitely not half-caster but around 3/4 caster leaning more towards full caster than half-caster, I don't see how you can claim that. Of course it's not like a full caster AND all the other stuff the Warlock gets. As Treantmonk explained in the video, they now get the full Arcana list of spells and a lot more spell preps. If they also got all the other Warlock stuff AND full caster they would overshadow every other caster in the game by a mile. They get a bit better than 3/4 caster. Which is a lot. A whole lot. I am not going to play that cherry picking game of 5th level, which is precisely what you just did. It's funny that the argument I was responding to what Treantmonk didn't look at "the whole" class and then you respond with a cherry picked level to make a point about the whole class. Your request for a timestamp comes in here. He gives you his spell progression for the Warlock near the end where his initial take is you use some non-spell selections and some spell selections, swap out Mystic Arcanum selections where appropriate, and can lay out the spellcaster progression for those choices. Start the video around 41:30. Treantmonk lays out the progression, and there is no doubt round by round you can see a TON of spells they can cast. WAY more than the characterization your giving it. [/QUOTE]
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