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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9022368" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Keep the half-caster, give them Mystic Arcanum for free for a single 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th spell.That still isn't full caster, but it takes the weight of the Arcanum off of the invocations. I thought I had made that proposal clear, so apologies if I didn't.I'm not sure how you can disagree with the math.4 spell slots of 5th level'+ Short Rest = 8 spell slots'+ Short Rest = 12 spell slots'+ Eldritch Master 1 minute ritual capstone = 16 spell slots'+ Mystic Arcanum (6th, 7th, 8th, 9th) = 20 spell slots.That is very basic algebra.Now, again, I agree that in PRACTICAL terms, they didn't get this. But it was DESIGNED to get this. This was the designed power level. The game just didn't actually meet the expectations of the design. So we can't measure this against the practical power of the warlock, but the designed expectations of the warlocks15 < 20. And 9 invocations is very misleading when the design is expecting anywhere from 4 to 5 of them to be Mystic Arcanum.I also am not convinced that the new version "runs circles" around the old version. Sure, maybe the new version has more power at low levels, but lacking that 3rd level spell at 5th level is viciously harsh. And again, is it a good design to cut later level power to give a boost to early power? I'm not sure. Many of the classes that are discussed as needing fixed all do that same thing, sacrificing late level power in exchange for early level power. Why increase that problem?</blockquote>

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