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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 4978328" data-attributes="member: 22424">The only third-party adventure I am familiar with is &quot;Forges of the Mountain King&quot; by Goodman Games, which I really can't recommend.I don't think we've seen anyone come close to realising the potential of 4e in a module - the game is sufficiently different that some of the old truths no longer apply, and I suspect people are still learning what works. I expect the published adventures to get much better over the next twelve months or so, much as they did with 3e (looking back, of the original 3e Adventure Path, only a couple of the modules are still particularly well regarded. Many of them fell flat at the time, while others simply have not aged well).In the meantime, some suggestions:- You could try taking the concept the published adventures, but hanging your own adventure around them. Sure, it's a bit less of a 'shared experience', but on the other hand your players get to experience something unique.- You could take the existing modules and simply excise a lot of the material you just don't like. Find the dozen or so core encounters, ditch everything else, add some new 'connecting material' and ramp up the treasure and XP awards. This basically produces a &quot;highlights package&quot; of the adventure, which would seem to work well.- You could convert the older classics to the new edition. (Obviously, getting hold of these is more difficult now that PDF sales have been suspended.) Things like the &quot;Slavers&quot; series, the Temple of Elemental Evil (probably not the &quot;Return to...&quot; though), &quot;Sunless Citadel&quot; and &quot;Shackled City&quot; have a strong element of shared experience to them, and should mostly convert across okay. (Also, although they're not hailed as classics, I found &quot;Shattered Circle&quot; to be a very good late-2nd Edition adventure, and the DD1-3 series (&quot;Barrow of the Forgotten King&quot;, &quot;The Sinister Spire&quot;, &quot;Fortress of the Yuan-ti&quot;) to be very good late-3e adventures.)- Or you could just hold off on published adventures entirely for a while. As I said, I expect them to improve; perhaps the time to go for that shared experience is then.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 4978328, member: 22424"] The only third-party adventure I am familiar with is "Forges of the Mountain King" by Goodman Games, which I really can't recommend. I don't think we've seen anyone come close to realising the potential of 4e in a module - the game is sufficiently different that some of the old truths no longer apply, and I suspect people are still learning what works. I expect the published adventures to get much better over the next twelve months or so, much as they did with 3e (looking back, of the original 3e Adventure Path, only a couple of the modules are still particularly well regarded. Many of them fell flat at the time, while others simply have not aged well). In the meantime, some suggestions: - You could try taking the concept the published adventures, but hanging your own adventure around them. Sure, it's a bit less of a 'shared experience', but on the other hand your players get to experience something unique. - You could take the existing modules and simply excise a lot of the material you just don't like. Find the dozen or so core encounters, ditch everything else, add some new 'connecting material' and ramp up the treasure and XP awards. This basically produces a "highlights package" of the adventure, which would seem to work well. - You could convert the older classics to the new edition. (Obviously, getting hold of these is more difficult now that PDF sales have been suspended.) Things like the "Slavers" series, the Temple of Elemental Evil (probably not the "Return to..." though), "Sunless Citadel" and "Shackled City" have a strong element of shared experience to them, and should mostly convert across okay. (Also, although they're not hailed as classics, I found "Shattered Circle" to be a very good late-2nd Edition adventure, and the DD1-3 series ("Barrow of the Forgotten King", "The Sinister Spire", "Fortress of the Yuan-ti") to be very good late-3e adventures.) - Or you could just hold off on published adventures entirely for a while. As I said, I expect them to improve; perhaps the time to go for that shared experience is then. [/QUOTE]

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