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<blockquote data-quote="Dualazi" data-source="post: 7013941" data-attributes="member: 6855537"><p>Blue: Wingclap, Thunderclap, Lightning Burst, Push+prone on basic attack</p><p>Green: Tail sweep, luring glare, mind poison, ongoing poison on basics</p><p></p><p>In 4e dragons get more abilities the more they age, which continues to highlight the differences between species, and that's not getting into differences of base stats like flight speeds or AC.</p><p></p><p>Also, I wouldn't call lair actions a given. Dragon raids on towns/settlements are a staple of the genre and the dragon can't rely on lair actions during these, either from a mechanical standpoint or a thematic one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lair actions/Legendary actions have nothing to do with tank/leader/controller distinctions, they are both just ways of trying to sneak extra turns to the monster without just saying they get multiple initiative passes.</p><p></p><p>Lair actions, again, also only apply when the dragon is within said lair. I'm not saying I'm displeased with how dragons ended up in 5e, because I think they're one of the better monsters, but it's disingenuous to assume they always have lair actions available.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dualazi, post: 7013941, member: 6855537"] Blue: Wingclap, Thunderclap, Lightning Burst, Push+prone on basic attack Green: Tail sweep, luring glare, mind poison, ongoing poison on basics In 4e dragons get more abilities the more they age, which continues to highlight the differences between species, and that's not getting into differences of base stats like flight speeds or AC. Also, I wouldn't call lair actions a given. Dragon raids on towns/settlements are a staple of the genre and the dragon can't rely on lair actions during these, either from a mechanical standpoint or a thematic one. Lair actions/Legendary actions have nothing to do with tank/leader/controller distinctions, they are both just ways of trying to sneak extra turns to the monster without just saying they get multiple initiative passes. Lair actions, again, also only apply when the dragon is within said lair. I'm not saying I'm displeased with how dragons ended up in 5e, because I think they're one of the better monsters, but it's disingenuous to assume they always have lair actions available. [/QUOTE]
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