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I LOVE 5th Editon... BUT... (Why No Simple Table of Rituals?) And Other Little Quibbles.
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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 6368343" data-attributes="member: 926"><p>I'm sorry if someone else started a thread about this, but I searched and couldn't find one anywhere.</p><p></p><p>First off, I have to say that I absolutely love 5th Edition. This is in no way a complaint about the game. I am deliriously happy with it; it's like all the best parts of OD&D, AD&D, Basic D&D, 3rd Edition, and even the few good parts of 4E (which I did NOT like) all mixed together in the best possible way. It combines the simplicity and elegance of OD&D and Basic with the character customizability and personalization of 3E, doing a wonderful job of keeping the numbers and modifiers low, and all the while taking the game back to a feeling of gritty tomb-raiding Pulp adventurers.</p><p></p><p>I <em>do</em> have a problem with the Player's Handbook, but it has nothing to do with the game itself. </p><p></p><p>Why are there no tables, or even breakdowns in the Class spell lists, delineating spells by school? That would have been very useful, and has pretty much been standard procedure since at least 2E. However, that's actually just a minor quibble; my main problems is why, oh <em>WHY</em>, are there no indicators of <em>any kind</em> marking out what spells can be cast as Rituals, except buried in the individual spell descriptions themselves? A simple asterisk beside the spells with Ritual versions would have been <em>trivially</em> easy to add, and been an <em>immense</em> time-saver for everyone. I'm torn between wanting to keep my book pristine, and wanting to take a pen and add my own asterisks to the spell lists to mark out the Rituals, and I think the "pristine" brigade is going to lose to the attacks of the "usefulness" contingent.</p><p></p><p>I'm just a bit flabbergasted; did seriously no one think to add such indicators, or did someone think to do so, but someone else decided to nix the idea for some reason? Because I have a hard time believing that no one, at any point, thought it might be a good idea to specify which spells can be cast as Rituals, without having to literally read through every spell description to find out.</p><p></p><p>Thank Yog-Sothoth for Mousferatu's wonderful Spell Sorter spreadsheet, or I would probably still be trying to find all of the Rituals (and probably have missed at least one.) Thanks again, Ari; you've proven once again how awesome you are (as if <em><span style="color: #00FF00">Before I Wake</span></em> wasn't enough already! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)</p><p></p><p>OK, that's all; that's my big gripe with 5th Edition. And it says something about how much I love this new Edition that <em>that</em> is the only real complaint I have with it. Spellcasters do seem to have a rather teensy-tiny number of higher level spell slots, never getting more than 1 6th-9th level slot per day, but I think I can see the reasoning behind that decision. Still, it is a little bit irksome. If a spellcaster wants to cast spells of those levels, he has to give up 4 of his rather limited number of prepared spells every day just to cast each one once. But, as I said, it's a minor quibble compared to how much I love this new version of the rules. Probably my favorite Edition ever (and I never thought <em>that</em> would happen.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 6368343, member: 926"] I'm sorry if someone else started a thread about this, but I searched and couldn't find one anywhere. First off, I have to say that I absolutely love 5th Edition. This is in no way a complaint about the game. I am deliriously happy with it; it's like all the best parts of OD&D, AD&D, Basic D&D, 3rd Edition, and even the few good parts of 4E (which I did NOT like) all mixed together in the best possible way. It combines the simplicity and elegance of OD&D and Basic with the character customizability and personalization of 3E, doing a wonderful job of keeping the numbers and modifiers low, and all the while taking the game back to a feeling of gritty tomb-raiding Pulp adventurers. I [I]do[/I] have a problem with the Player's Handbook, but it has nothing to do with the game itself. Why are there no tables, or even breakdowns in the Class spell lists, delineating spells by school? That would have been very useful, and has pretty much been standard procedure since at least 2E. However, that's actually just a minor quibble; my main problems is why, oh [I]WHY[/I], are there no indicators of [I]any kind[/I] marking out what spells can be cast as Rituals, except buried in the individual spell descriptions themselves? A simple asterisk beside the spells with Ritual versions would have been [I]trivially[/I] easy to add, and been an [I]immense[/I] time-saver for everyone. I'm torn between wanting to keep my book pristine, and wanting to take a pen and add my own asterisks to the spell lists to mark out the Rituals, and I think the "pristine" brigade is going to lose to the attacks of the "usefulness" contingent. I'm just a bit flabbergasted; did seriously no one think to add such indicators, or did someone think to do so, but someone else decided to nix the idea for some reason? Because I have a hard time believing that no one, at any point, thought it might be a good idea to specify which spells can be cast as Rituals, without having to literally read through every spell description to find out. Thank Yog-Sothoth for Mousferatu's wonderful Spell Sorter spreadsheet, or I would probably still be trying to find all of the Rituals (and probably have missed at least one.) Thanks again, Ari; you've proven once again how awesome you are (as if [I][COLOR="#00FF00"]Before I Wake[/COLOR][/I] wasn't enough already! :D) OK, that's all; that's my big gripe with 5th Edition. And it says something about how much I love this new Edition that [I]that[/I] is the only real complaint I have with it. Spellcasters do seem to have a rather teensy-tiny number of higher level spell slots, never getting more than 1 6th-9th level slot per day, but I think I can see the reasoning behind that decision. Still, it is a little bit irksome. If a spellcaster wants to cast spells of those levels, he has to give up 4 of his rather limited number of prepared spells every day just to cast each one once. But, as I said, it's a minor quibble compared to how much I love this new version of the rules. Probably my favorite Edition ever (and I never thought [I]that[/I] would happen.) [/QUOTE]
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