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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ferratus" data-source="post: 5051797" data-attributes="member: 55966">I don't see anything interesting that can be done with the feydark that can't be done with the underdark.  That's why we have the drow in the prime material after all.  The only thing cool about the feydark are psycho svirfneblin, cyclopses and formorian giants.   The formorians are enemies of the surface-dwelling eladrin courts, so why would you want to separate them by an underdark?   It is better for conflict in the feywild to have the formorians in cavern systems, lairing under barrow mounds, or in big black fortresses with extensive dungeons. There is nothing in the preview article that suggests a extensive underground world is necessary, or particularly wanted.   The formorian and gnome realms can just be caverns near a vulnerable eladrin "point of light" civilization.  The dead forest and living grotto just look boring in conception, which would take one heck of an execution to make me give a damn.  In the end the feywild is going to be a sideshow excursion in all but a few campaigns, and descending into the feydark is going to be a sideshow of a sideshow.  Frankly, I can't be bothered to put in the effort to set the mood of descending into the feydark (with the wandering and wandering encounters needed to set the mood) when I'm already building up the mood of being in the feywild itself.The Shadowdark suffers from the same problem.   What can you put in the shadowdark that you wouldn't put in the underdark, or the gloomy land of the dead above?   Why not put alhoon in the underdark where they've always been?  Why not have buried tombs and undead lords under a shadowfell mountain rather than in a shadowfell underdark? This is why my "shadowdark" is the nine hells.  The shadowfell is basically purgatory or limbo (a place where the dead persist before perhaps going on to their final destiny) crossed with Sheol or Hades.   So why not have a big gate that says "abandon all hope ye who enter here" in the land of the dead?</blockquote>

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