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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8718777" data-attributes="member: 6987520">While I understand your rant, I don't really think it's fair.::begin counter-rant::  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />A lot of people play in terms of expressing mechanics and systems, not just giving narratives. The general statement "I make a perception check" is just another way of saying "I look around and see what I see, hear what I hear, and so forth, to see if anything strikes me as odd or out of place." There is no need to declare that statement over and over again when they don't want something specific IMO. Now, if they want something specific, maybe explain that to them?When describing an attack, you might say "I attack the chimera" but then are you going be nit-picky and say, "With what?" to which the player will respond, "Duh, with my longsword!" And then you continue, "How with your longsword?" And the player gets up and vents their frustration on you insisting that they expound on every action they want their character to take when their intent is obvious. You don't have to say, "I attack the chimera by swinging my longsword in a wide arc hoping to lob off one of its head."However, players understand if you are attacking for a specific purpose, "I want to knock the guard prone," you have to state that is the intent of your attack. But IMO it is just as valid to say, "I want to take the Attack action and use my attack to try to knock the guard prone."Now, back to the perception issue. With such a broad, non-specific action I am only going to reveal superficial information based on their ability check result. IF the player wants to be more specific, then that is great, and I will gear the results towards their specific action, such as "I look for a hidden latch in the bookcase".Anyway, it really depends on the player IME. Some love to be descriptive in what they are doing, others prefer mechanic/system expressions. I often see it more in newer players, but even veterans can "short-hand" their actions from time to time. I explain to players that the more general their statements, the more general the response. If they want specifics, get specific.::end counter-rant::Finally, you can just stare at them blankly when they make such a statement as "I make a perception check" and wait for them to elaborate. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

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