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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8718797" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Oh, look, it's the old "Mental skills are exactly the same as physical skills" fallacy this time in the form of, "It's metagaming to use your skills as a player!" </p><p></p><p>Except that it isn't. Because no one says that a player with 20 years experience at D&D should just forget everything he knows about good combat tactics and pretend he is a complete noob and split the party, place unarmed characters on the front line, failure to focus fire down targets, waste multiple actions trying to gain small advantages, leave gaps in the line for enemies to exploit, give up the high ground and so forth. </p><p></p><p>It is not only impossible to separate the player's mental abilities from the character's mental abilities, it's not even desirable. Because even if you could separate them such the character is only being role-played on the basis of the character's own mental abilities, then the player would then be reduced to an observer of the character and not a participant in the game. You would no longer have a role playing game: you'd have a role playing simulation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8718797, member: 4937"] Oh, look, it's the old "Mental skills are exactly the same as physical skills" fallacy this time in the form of, "It's metagaming to use your skills as a player!" Except that it isn't. Because no one says that a player with 20 years experience at D&D should just forget everything he knows about good combat tactics and pretend he is a complete noob and split the party, place unarmed characters on the front line, failure to focus fire down targets, waste multiple actions trying to gain small advantages, leave gaps in the line for enemies to exploit, give up the high ground and so forth. It is not only impossible to separate the player's mental abilities from the character's mental abilities, it's not even desirable. Because even if you could separate them such the character is only being role-played on the basis of the character's own mental abilities, then the player would then be reduced to an observer of the character and not a participant in the game. You would no longer have a role playing game: you'd have a role playing simulation. [/QUOTE]
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