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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 8718978" data-attributes="member: 467">That depends on what &quot;failure&quot; means, I guess.Going back to the assassin in the room example way upthread, ostensibly if the player starts searching the dark corners of the room because they think their might be hidden danger, the GM should call for a Perception roll IF their actions wouldn't automatically reveal the assassin. This is where specificity comes in, because I am more inclined to force a roll with &quot;I look around in the darkness for anyone&quot; and more inclined to just reveal the assassin with &quot;I grab a flaming brand from the fireplace and use it as a torch in the dark corners and under the bed.&quot; In the latter case, there is no way for the assassin to remain hidden per the stealth rules, but it the former case there is more room for interpretation and the assassin might slip from one shadow to another while the PC looks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 8718978, member: 467"] That depends on what "failure" means, I guess. Going back to the assassin in the room example way upthread, ostensibly if the player starts searching the dark corners of the room because they think their might be hidden danger, the GM should call for a Perception roll IF their actions wouldn't automatically reveal the assassin. This is where specificity comes in, because I am more inclined to force a roll with "I look around in the darkness for anyone" and more inclined to just reveal the assassin with "I grab a flaming brand from the fireplace and use it as a torch in the dark corners and under the bed." In the latter case, there is no way for the assassin to remain hidden per the stealth rules, but it the former case there is more room for interpretation and the assassin might slip from one shadow to another while the PC looks. [/QUOTE]

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