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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Smackpixi" data-source="post: 8720426" data-attributes="member: 7028579">Ummm…am I missing something, I’ve read some but not all of the thread, why are we still on this question?  The standard request from DMs who IIke their player to not gameify their D&D is simply to say, “I search the room” rather than “I make a perception check”…and when I say, “ok, you want to search the room, make an investigation check” they say, ”I’d rather use perception, I’m better at that“ I say “fine” because I’m not a rules monger, but if I am, I clarify “ok, but using perception rather than investigation means you just look closely at everything, don’t open the drawers and stuff.”  And then they say, what if I open all the drawers and then do a perception check”. again, i say “fine…do it.“ And then when they do, I say the second drawer from the top explodes and ask for a dex save, 2 d6 damage on a fail, half on a success.  And then they get pissed at me, and I say someone doing an investigation check would have noticed the trap before opening the drawer, and also, someone that just accepted the precondition of not touching things when they request to “search the room” with perception rather than investigation would have also noticed the trap.  But no, you opened the drawers before you searched, haha.  I don’t do all that bs, but if you want to, perfectly fine.  It all starts with, “tell me what your character wants to do, not what you want to do”.  It’s pretty easy, only d-bags refuse to play along and discover the fun of how game works.</blockquote>

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