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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8720977" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Sure it is possible. People look for things and miss them. The DC is what determines how well that false bottom is concealed.Think of it like puzzle boxes. You know it is a puzzle box and it will open somehow, but you can't get it.Not at all. If they succeed, the find things, if they fail, they don't see anything that tips them off to the location of said secret door or trap or whatever.Just saying "I make a perception check" isn't the same as tossing the room, which is a specific action.Here's an example:There is a bed in the room and the player rolls 20 for the check. Hidden under the mattress is a sack with some small gemstones. This could be narrated different ways but I might say something like this:You see some edges of the blankets that look odd, maybe a different colored cloth at the edge.I am not telling them what it might be, and if they would then say, "I check out the blankets", they will find the gemstones based on that 20 roll.</blockquote>