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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8721122" data-attributes="member: 67338">I mean if you assume just in this thread with no context... sure, but actions declaired on the 34 session of the campaign after 2 sessions planing getting info and making it to the king, and the whole session leading to it most likely will give you the context. this is again something I disagree with...2 characters one with a +12 and the other with a +1... the one with the +12 doesn't know what to say and bumbles through something bad he shouldn't say so the DM sets that DC at 30... he rolls a 16 (28 still godly) and failsthen the one with +1&nbsp; states the perfect argument, says all the right word and the DM says &quot;Okay you got it&quot;I would be pissed &quot;He would need to roll a 27 just to tie me on a d20&quot;ESEPCIALLY if this started with me asking for the skill and being told to say something first &quot;So I got punished for not knowing what to say when I told you I the player didn't knwo what to say but my character should&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8721122, member: 67338"] I mean if you assume just in this thread with no context... sure, but actions declaired on the 34 session of the campaign after 2 sessions planing getting info and making it to the king, and the whole session leading to it most likely will give you the context. this is again something I disagree with... 2 characters one with a +12 and the other with a +1... the one with the +12 doesn't know what to say and bumbles through something bad he shouldn't say so the DM sets that DC at 30... he rolls a 16 (28 still godly) and fails then the one with +1 states the perfect argument, says all the right word and the DM says "Okay you got it" I would be pissed "He would need to roll a 27 just to tie me on a d20" ESEPCIALLY if this started with me asking for the skill and being told to say something first "So I got punished for not knowing what to say when I told you I the player didn't knwo what to say but my character should" [/QUOTE]

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