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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8724230" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>okay but I don't think this is going to end this... lets try</p><p></p><p>100% agree</p><p></p><p>hard disagree. that information can (especially in some circumstances) be helpful but it is not an always needed thing...</p><p></p><p>traps by default have DCs, stealth goes against passive perception (most times) active perception goes against stealth (most times) and lots of times we can set DCs based 100% on environment and situation. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean as long as it is somewhat clear... it's not like I assume I know how the PC investigates the blank void before I describe the setting, or how the PC seduces the door...</p><p></p><p>and again where I am sure some DMs describe what the characters do (and they seem to love streaming and that is why o don't watch much steaming cause I want to yell you can't tell the player what there character does) but the crux (for me at least) is still the how you declare not can the DM puppet the PC</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what can help... no matter how many times I tell you I don't take control or agency from players (unless magic mind cotrol) you don't believe me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8724230, member: 67338"] okay but I don't think this is going to end this... lets try 100% agree hard disagree. that information can (especially in some circumstances) be helpful but it is not an always needed thing... traps by default have DCs, stealth goes against passive perception (most times) active perception goes against stealth (most times) and lots of times we can set DCs based 100% on environment and situation. I mean as long as it is somewhat clear... it's not like I assume I know how the PC investigates the blank void before I describe the setting, or how the PC seduces the door... and again where I am sure some DMs describe what the characters do (and they seem to love streaming and that is why o don't watch much steaming cause I want to yell you can't tell the player what there character does) but the crux (for me at least) is still the how you declare not can the DM puppet the PC I'm not sure what can help... no matter how many times I tell you I don't take control or agency from players (unless magic mind cotrol) you don't believe me. [/QUOTE]
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