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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8724339" data-attributes="member: 97077">If anyone is trying to undercut what someone else is saying by showing that two DMs don't agree that a given approach to a task is an auto-success or auto-failure, you are making a mistake in my view.What matters is what someone's individual DM says at their given table. DMs at different tables may disagree on what counts for automatic success or failure even with substantially similar context in the fictional situation. Hopefully the individual DM is consistent with their adjudication within the bounds of their own game so that players know, for example, that looking behind a bookshelf may automatically reveal a hidden door, if there is one there. That another DM rules different is not only irrelevant, but it isn't saying anything substantive about an approach to the game that balances the calls for automatic success (or failure) with calls to make ability checks.</blockquote>