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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8725755" data-attributes="member: 4937">You are talking about an earlier dialogue I was involved in and I said for my part that while I agreed with the process, it left out a step and that part it left off was making the rules conform to the fictional position by giving advantage or disadvantage as appropriate to the circumstance.  Persuading someone to do something shouldn't have a fixed difficulty.  Persuading your wife to pass you the salt shouldn't be a difficult check.  People should want to do things that are in their own interests.  People normally are happy to do things that don't cost them much.  If you explain why your petition is within the interests of the person, that should matter.  Fictional positioning should matter.Now it could be the case that your character is just a terrible public speaker and rolling low and failing is appropriate because your character stumbled and stuttered and in his awkwardness the chief didn't even quite get the point (this happens several times to good effect in Avatar the Last Airbender cartoons), but I do agree with you that if you the player outline a good plan in any situation - including a social situation - that should alter the difficulty.It's easier to climb a wall with handholds than a wall covered with ice.  If you've discovered the secret wall with handholds, you shouldn't roll at the same difficulty as if you hadn't.A classic example would be the difference between:a) "I try to intimidate the Burgomeister into changing his vote."  Ok, roll intimidate.b) "I present the Burgomeister with copies of the letters and the pages from the ledger that proves he's embezzling funds from the city to fund a mistress.  I then say, "Dear Master Hoff.  Let's come to some agreement.  These never need to see public light.  I have nothing against you making a little extra on the side.  I have no interest in scandals.  So this is how you will vote in tomorrow's council session."  Ok, roll intimidate.Notice the biggest difference is not the presence of RP, although RP is GREAT.  The biggest difference is the presence of clear leverage.</blockquote>

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