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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8729893" data-attributes="member: 93670">The post was about the basically unlimited level of patience &amp; empathy expected of the gm&nbsp; by the ttrpg community in general against the way 5e as a ruleset encourages &quot;assume the gm is a monster&quot; thinking. &quot;Life support for an OC&quot; is more the operative part of phrase I was going for. Great OC takes work &amp; proactive involvement to get great stories that you can later share with people who weren't there, it might not work out as expected after all of that work either.&nbsp; If the player forces the work on the gm with &quot;I wouldn't have done that&quot; &amp; &quot;I would have done it differently&quot; retcon/veto cards through the use of &quot;I roll X&quot; rather than &quot;I do Y&quot; it removes the work &amp; risk while forcing the gm to serve as life support for the desired OC. That expectation flows down into empowerment of players wanting to abuse it by forcing their GM to be something else after it crosses a point but it's rare to see anyone willing to admit it or admit that it's a crossable line.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8729893, member: 93670"] The post was about the basically unlimited level of patience & empathy expected of the gm by the ttrpg community in general against the way 5e as a ruleset encourages "assume the gm is a monster" thinking. "Life support [U]for an OC[/U]" is more the operative part of phrase I was going for. Great OC takes work & proactive involvement to get great stories that you can later share with people who weren't there, it might not work out as expected after all of that work either. If the player forces the work on the gm with "I wouldn't have done[I] that[/I]" & "I would have done it differently" retcon/veto cards through the use of "I [I]roll[/I] X" rather than "I [I]do[/I] Y" it removes the work & risk while forcing the gm to serve as life support for the desired OC. That expectation flows down into empowerment of players wanting to abuse it by forcing their GM to be something else after it crosses a point but it's rare to see anyone willing to admit it or admit that it's a crossable line. [/QUOTE]

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