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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5354057" data-attributes="member: 61155">Yeah, that is the primary purpose. But to existing players, they offer new builds for various classes.  You've got one of two ways to look at it. Either these new builds are the equivalent of the new builds offered in Martial Power, or they are the equivalent of new classes as found in PHB2, etc.  Either way, that is absolutely new content.  Heroes of Legend? It won't be. That is the book that, as I understand it, is primarily reprinting new material. And the other Heroes books have a bit of that with reprinted feats and items, yes.  But each one presents a number of new builds or classes (depending on how you want to look at it), and I just can't see any reasonable interpretation of that content which involves dismissing it as simply reprinting of existing content.   Yeah, not sure yet on Monster Vault. It had originally sounded like we'd be seeing new versions of existing monsters so that we could have "MM3 math" variants of classic monsters that supplement prior material without replacing it. Then they chose a terrible preview that had boring carrion crawlers nearly identical to the previous ones. So... until we know more, hard to say anything for sure. I'm hoping the carrion crawlers were a fluke and they'll hold to what was earlier promised about the product.   I don't know about that. I know players who pretty much just stick to the 'core classes'. I see them just as likely to bemoan a dry spell between Martial Power 2 and Heroes of the Fallen Lands - they don't need PHB3, Psionic stuff, DM content or Dark Sun. Are they as large a group as those who are not interested in Essentials? Certainly not... but I think there are a lot of similar groups out there.  In this case, yes, WotC is deciding to have a period focusing on new players. They have still tried to include content in that period that will appeal to existing players, and I think many will still pick up such content. I could be wrong - your feelings on this might be widespread and vast, and WotC will take a huge hit by doing so. But... I've got a suspicion that isn't the case.    Hundreds of dollars? $40 for Heroes of the Fallen Lands and Forgotten Kingdoms. Maybe also the Monster Vault - those are the products that have some amount of new content along some amount of old content. And then Heroes of Shadow, which should be entirely new content.  And let's look at that actual price tag. Heroes of the Fallen Lands offers 4 classes that feature 5 new builds, and some new feats. Alongside it is some older feats and items. It is certainly less content than one might find in Martial Power. On the other hand... it's 2/3 the cost. If you don't want the content, that is fine. But that is a different thing than that content not being there.</blockquote>

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