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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5355765" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>MrMyth, what I was "upset" about (so to speak) was that you focused on a single sentence in my first post and seemed to ignore everything else in that post and after that, and were in a sense cornering me into a position that I didn't feel all that strongly about (thus my emphasis on "mainly" rather than "simply" or "only" in terms of the lack of new material). But I am satisfied with where we've come to in this discussion and glad to move on! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think we share some agreement, although with a bit of disagreement in there that we can both live with.</p><p></p><p>As for the second part of your post, it really remains to be seen, doesn't it? Re: hardcovers, whether the Heroes books will be successful or not, and just where WotC is going with this. It is fun to speculate, though!</p><p></p><p>As for running a big game company, I can only imagine. Game geeks seem to be a particularly opinionated lot, with everyone being an "armchair game designer." And any time you try something new, for everyone that you please there will certainly be a ton of people that aren't pleased.</p><p></p><p>Which brings me to a final point. My initial statement of being hyperbolic was meant to communicate that my views on this aren't that solid, and I'm not really all that upset, my disappointment actually being pretty mild (if nothing else it allows me to flesh out other areas of my RPG collection). </p><p></p><p>There are some things I don't like about Essentials, but other things I do like. At the very least it will be very interesting to see where WotC goes with this, because nothing is set in stone, and I think predicting where D&D will be in two years is a lot less certain than it might have been predicting where D&D would be in 2005 just after 3.5 came out in 2003. 3.5 was relatively stable from 2003 to 2007, with a slew of hardcovers coming out until they started peetering out with the announcement of 4E. It seems that with Essentials WotC is less creating a new sub-edition cycle as they are stepping sideways and taking a new route with 4E, or at least experimenting with different formats and approaches. In two years we could be looking at the imminent announcement of 5E, or we could be looking at a very different 4E that is based firmly on D&D Insider, or we could look at an Essentials-based 4E in which we look back in nostalgia at the extinct "hardcover" species.</p><p></p><p>Who knows, really, but it should be interesting!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5355765, member: 59082"] MrMyth, what I was "upset" about (so to speak) was that you focused on a single sentence in my first post and seemed to ignore everything else in that post and after that, and were in a sense cornering me into a position that I didn't feel all that strongly about (thus my emphasis on "mainly" rather than "simply" or "only" in terms of the lack of new material). But I am satisfied with where we've come to in this discussion and glad to move on! ;) I think we share some agreement, although with a bit of disagreement in there that we can both live with. As for the second part of your post, it really remains to be seen, doesn't it? Re: hardcovers, whether the Heroes books will be successful or not, and just where WotC is going with this. It is fun to speculate, though! As for running a big game company, I can only imagine. Game geeks seem to be a particularly opinionated lot, with everyone being an "armchair game designer." And any time you try something new, for everyone that you please there will certainly be a ton of people that aren't pleased. Which brings me to a final point. My initial statement of being hyperbolic was meant to communicate that my views on this aren't that solid, and I'm not really all that upset, my disappointment actually being pretty mild (if nothing else it allows me to flesh out other areas of my RPG collection). There are some things I don't like about Essentials, but other things I do like. At the very least it will be very interesting to see where WotC goes with this, because nothing is set in stone, and I think predicting where D&D will be in two years is a lot less certain than it might have been predicting where D&D would be in 2005 just after 3.5 came out in 2003. 3.5 was relatively stable from 2003 to 2007, with a slew of hardcovers coming out until they started peetering out with the announcement of 4E. It seems that with Essentials WotC is less creating a new sub-edition cycle as they are stepping sideways and taking a new route with 4E, or at least experimenting with different formats and approaches. In two years we could be looking at the imminent announcement of 5E, or we could be looking at a very different 4E that is based firmly on D&D Insider, or we could look at an Essentials-based 4E in which we look back in nostalgia at the extinct "hardcover" species. Who knows, really, but it should be interesting! [/QUOTE]
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