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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4231183" data-attributes="member: 834">You are the one who is assuming these acts are inherently chaotic.  What Robin Hood did was war on a small scale.  Guerrila, basically.  Is war an inherently CHAOTIC activity?  Because fighting a guerilla war to restore the LAW is kind of paradoxal if only CHAOTIC people can do it.  Yourself you tagged the nazis as Lawful.  Well, they were waging war.  And used sneaky tactics such as blitzkrieg and snipers.  Why would Robin Hood be chaotic just because he didn't have the means to fight Prince John on an open field?And more importantly, you never answered this : Why would Robin Hood STOP his activities and become a loyal subject once the rightful king is restored if he was truly chaotic.  Robin Hood used the only means he had available.  In most variant, he didn't take to the wood immediately.  In most stories he starts by protesting formally.  Very Lawful.  But it backfires and soon he has to flee for his life.  He didn't use a chaotic method to fight back.  He used the only method to fight back in the context.  Nothing else would have worked in an area where the Sheriff conrols the local armed force, the church hierarchy is corrupt, there is no such things as media and public opinion and simply slaughtering any visible opposition is very much an option for the government.  Are you telling me his alignment changed when he fled into the woods out of necessity and the reverted to LG or NG once Richard returned?  Because his ethics remained constant.  That's why he had to fight.  If his ethics were flexible, he'd have shut up and accepted John's rule.  If you defend strangers because it's the right thing to do, you are GOOD.  If you defend your family, maybe you are GOOD.  Maybe you are unlaigned.  Maybe you are even evil.  You didn't know that most mafia hitmen were also family men?  Better not endanger their family.  Wanting to protect your kid sister makes you a normal brother, not a saint.So yes, defending strangers is more altruistic than defending your kin.  I can't understand why you don't grasp that fact.  Put down that comic book NOW.The guy who became a war hero during WW2 and then went home to his wife and beat the living crap out of her isn't a chaotic evil psychopath fighting to destroy order.  He's just a patriot, a macho and has poor emotional control.  My argument wasn't that such a man was CE, just that he wasn't GOOD.  It was in relation to the point above.To reiterate, defending your family isn't GOOD, it's expected.  You might still be a GOOD person, it's just not on that one action we'll know because notoriously EVIL people have helped and protected their family too.  It's pretty much a biological imperative and if you don't even do that, then I guess you really are decadent CE.And I don't think I wrote 'Chaos is doing something bad' anywhere.</blockquote>

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