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Message: <blockquote data-quote="muffin_of_chaos" data-source="post: 4232187" data-attributes="member: 65007">Of course it's semantic.  But obviously it's necessary to absorb.You believe that being Chaotic is to be devoted to the idea of Chaos.  I believe that the way WotC is defining it is as Actually Chaotic.No reason to drop an assumption that makes every bit of sense.You are talking about something other than what I am talking about.  You are talking about a Lawful *and* Evil person.  Not a Lawfully Evil person.I agree that Lawful/Evil can exist (Lawful Evil in the old system).  Yes.  Great.  That's true.  But the new system doesn't define it the same way.All right.  These philosophies have a definition of evil action that is Completely Irrelevant because it means that you cannot know when you are and are not doing good and evil actions.  And if that is true, then no one would know how to act.I don't.  I'm perfectly willing to accept that your idea of Lawful/Good, Lawful/Evil, Chaotic/Good, all that old stuff exist.  I put a '/' in there to more accurately label it, but it is exactly what 3.x alignments were.  I am differentiating between the two editions.  This second one focuses on Good and Evil, and scraps the Lawful and Chaotic "axis."  I think it works better.You aren't even arguing against me, you're just reinforcing the reasoning behind the previous system.  Which is great.  But it isn't the current system.  You should probably be arguing that the new system sucks, rather than that the new system should be the old system without qualification.That's fine.  Hopefully one or two people do, and start to actually think about how the difference matters.Um.  Right.  Unaligned people including everyone who isn't at heart devoted to Good or Evil.  I'm sure they have no compunctions about their actions.That's fine...it's a hard concept to grasp.Common connotations define the usage and meaning of words.Definition:"Slavery is a social-economic system under which certain persons — known as slaves — are deprived of personal freedom and compelled to work.Slaves are held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase, or birth, and are deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to receive compensation (such as wages) in return for their labor. As such, slavery is one form of unfree labor."More importantly:This still has nothing to do with the distinct difference between the old and new definitions of Lawful, Chaotic, Good, and Evil.Rough day?</blockquote>

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