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Message: <blockquote data-quote="muffin_of_chaos" data-source="post: 4236950" data-attributes="member: 65007">Moral codes aren't meant to change based on each action, however.  That's why they're codes.I don't believe that if people actually have a moral code, they can act contrarily to it.  If they can, it wasn't really their moral code to begin with, just some set of ideals.Can literal alignment be based on what others think your alignment is?  There seems to be no reason to write it down, then.In 4E alignment seems to specifically define whether or not you fundamentally align with good and evil, and has no bearing on how any individual other perceives you.  They can still perceive your alignment and act accordingly, as they could before, but they can't change your fundamental beliefs for you.When others are dictating your alignment (the DM, perhaps) in any given moment, you can't know what your own alignment actually is.  The only thing writing it down can do is remind you of how you supposedly want others to perceive you.  Which may be what you're aiming for, but in such case of representation I think the character's own personality is much more than his/her alignment, and perhaps in spite of it; thus, writing it down and having it stare you in the face is more likely to derail your expression of yourself in favor of conforming to two letters which really hold no depth of explanation.Yeah...I consider alignment more like your birth date.  Static.I'd contend that you cannot be devoted to doing evil and following the law at the same time.If you're more interested in upholding the law than anything else, and will do evil to accomplish that, I'd say you're Unaligned to the good/evil axis.  If you believe that by upholding the law you will promote the greatest good, perhaps you are in fact Lawful Good.If you want the law/chaos axis back, I guess I can't help you.  I think that there are so many different kinds of Lawful and Chaotic, and being truly Lawful or Chaotic is so rare, that labeling yourself as either was and is meaningless, and is best served by allowing your actions to represent how you react to specific and different laws and codes.I also don't believe that Law and Chaos can fight in a war devoid of morality...Good and Evil would always be defining the reasoning behind the war.But I think that's been gone over.</blockquote>

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