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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Akrasia" data-source="post: 1788558" data-attributes="member: 23012">While nostalgia certainly does influence the way in which some "old timers" view earlier editions, it is not the only reason why some long-time players like those earlier editions.There are a number of legitimate, non-nostalgia-based, reasons why some "old timers" like certain aspects of earlier editions over 3.x.  (Note that this does not mean that, in liking these certain aspects of OOP D&D, one has to deny that 3.x D&D has many virtues as well.  Yes, that possibility may be hard to grasp, but it is perfectly coherent.)  I will not bother trying to present an exhaustive list here, but here are a few: faster game pace (especially in combat); lower prep-time for DMs (important for DMs with jobs who do not want to write up half-page stat blocs for half-dragon, half-gnome, sorcerer/druid/mystic theurges); writing style (the 3.x manuals read as dry as dust); irritation with 3.x's need to quantify every single aspect of the game (hence contributing to criticisms -- admittedly not correct for every game -- that 3.x undermines creativity and role-playing); etc.And frankly, claiming that all "old timers" like earlier editions of D&D only because they are wearing "rose tinted glasses" -- i.e. that the only reason why they like earlier editions is because of nostalgia -- is unfounded rubbish.If you criticize others for making vague, unsupportable claims involving "soul" or "imagination," at least be consistent DJ, and don't do the same thing yourself.</blockquote>

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