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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Droop-in-soup" data-source="post: 7954590" data-attributes="member: 7022302">Thanks billd91. This is much more helpful. The tone of your last post was one where I had to overcome feelings that got stirred up, just to get to what you were sharing.   This post doesn't do that. And that is a help to me.   I have been wanting to ask you this, and ask people on the forum in general, and so I will post it here: Reading how my friend depicted me in his few 'laying it all out' took a lot of self control for me to get through. I felt that the person he depicted (me, as he experienced it) would be perceived in so many ways as a terrible player and out of control, nonsensical person.  I find myself wondering to what degree people like yourself reading that also got that impression?  And I wonder how it was for you, reading what I posted, in relation to the experiences coming from his side?  My post is not my best, because I chose to post it after a full finished draft, but did not go over it again as I would prefer to, because I didn't have another entire day to improve it, so I know it is not my best, and it will perhaps contribute, as you pointed out in my pictures post, to less than a clear and supportable expression of my experience.  We are all a work in progress, so I don't expect to achieve perfection.  I would, though, be very interested to hear people's experiences in the forum about what effect it has had to incorporate my posts with my friend's posts?  Has it been a help to people that I chose to bring my side as well?  I'd love to hear from people about this.Back to your fine post:You asked about my wife. It is not so bad with her. She is a professional artist, and she has a very active inner life, and when people are in the house she can't fully relax, and then they also have to cross the room that she spends her evening alone time in, when they go to the bathroom, which I cannot practically prevent from happening. It means that I want to be careful not to overdo what she has to be put through. She doesn't resents me, and I don't think the time is too big a rub.  She just makes sure I know that she has to give up something for me to do it, and she would prefer I didn't do it in the house. But the room above the 2 stall garage is mine, and it is great, and there is no better option.  I try to pay attention to her to make sure it doesn't become a problem.Your paragraph on the game not out to get me, and modeling for my 5 year old, graciously and wisely said. I appreciate reading that.I appreciate you get the traps thing.  What you said is just right, from my perspective.So many of you are so articulate. Thanks for taking your time to participate. I'm very grateful. I am taking this stuff in, and trying to let it change anything in me that is holding on to a falsehood.  I'm the kind of person that can be convinced by a clearly articulated fact.  Sometimes it takes a while for just the right formulation for it to click. But I aim for that kind of open-mindedness.</blockquote>

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