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<blockquote data-quote="iwatt" data-source="post: 1128051" data-attributes="member: 11085">Originally[CODE]DIRE LION&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Large AnimalHit Dice:&nbsp; &nbsp; 8d8+24 (60 hp)Initiative:&nbsp; &nbsp; +2Speed:&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ft. (8 squares)Armor Class:&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13Base Attack/Grapple:&nbsp; &nbsp; +6/+17Attack:&nbsp; &nbsp; Claw +13 melee (1d6+7)Full Attack:&nbsp; &nbsp; 2 claws +13 melee (1d6+7) and bite +7 melee (1d8+3)Space/Reach:&nbsp; &nbsp; 10 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks:&nbsp; &nbsp; Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d6+3Special Qualities:&nbsp; &nbsp; Low-light vision, scentSaves:&nbsp; &nbsp; Fort +9, Ref +8, Will +7Abilities:&nbsp; &nbsp; Str 25, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10Skills:&nbsp; &nbsp; Hide +2*, Listen +7, Move Silently +5, Spot +7Feats:&nbsp; &nbsp; Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw)Environment:&nbsp; &nbsp; Warm plainsOrganization:&nbsp; &nbsp; Solitary, pair, or pride (6–10)Challenge Rating:&nbsp; &nbsp; 5Treasure:&nbsp; &nbsp; NoneAlignment:&nbsp; &nbsp; Always neutralAdvancement:&nbsp; &nbsp; 9–16 HD (Large); 17–24 HD (Huge)Level Adjustment:&nbsp; &nbsp; —[/CODE]OK, so you want to advance it to 12 HD. This doesn't change his size. But he does gain 2 feats, and one ability increase (All of the physical abilities seem good choices, but I'd go with STR ).His BAB raises to +9 (as cleric of 12 HD)His Base saves are +8/+8/+8. Notice that some animals (like this one) also have a good will save besides always having good Fort and Ref.Remember the claw has weapon focus.Finnally, you have 4 skill points to distribute. I'd raise Spot and Listen by 2. I believe they're &quot;racial&quot; skills for animals.The feats I'd choose are Multiattack (-2 to bite instead of -5). And Improved Natural Attack [Claw] (1d8 instead of 1d6).&nbsp; The bite could also go up, but ther are more claw attacks, and it generally ties in with the weapon focus.[CODE]Fiendish DIRE LION&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Large AnimalHit Dice:&nbsp; &nbsp; 12d8+36 (90 hp)Initiative:&nbsp; &nbsp; +2Speed:&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ft. (8 squares)Armor Class:&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13Base Attack/Grapple:&nbsp; &nbsp; +9/+21Attack:&nbsp; &nbsp; Claw +17 melee (1d8+8)Full Attack:&nbsp; &nbsp; 2 claws +17 melee (1d8+8) and bite +14 melee (1d8+4)Space/Reach:&nbsp; &nbsp; 10 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks:&nbsp; &nbsp; Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d8+4Special Qualities:&nbsp; &nbsp; Low-light vision, scent, DR 10/magic, Smite Good (+12 Dmg), &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cold and Fire resistance 10, SR 17, Darkvision 60'.Saves:&nbsp; &nbsp; Fort +11, Ref +10, Will +9Abilities:&nbsp; &nbsp; Str 26, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 3, Wis 12, Cha 10Skills:&nbsp; &nbsp; Hide +2*, Listen +9, Move Silently +5, Spot +9Feats:&nbsp; &nbsp; Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw), Multiattack, Improved Natural&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Attack (Claw).Challenge Rating:&nbsp; &nbsp; 8 (+1 for extra 3HD +2 for template)[/CODE] Hope this helped.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iwatt, post: 1128051, member: 11085"] Originally [CODE] DIRE LION Large Animal Hit Dice: 8d8+24 (60 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares) Armor Class: 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13 Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+17 Attack: Claw +13 melee (1d6+7) Full Attack: 2 claws +13 melee (1d6+7) and bite +7 melee (1d8+3) Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d6+3 Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent Saves: Fort +9, Ref +8, Will +7 Abilities: Str 25, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10 Skills: Hide +2*, Listen +7, Move Silently +5, Spot +7 Feats: Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw) Environment: Warm plains Organization: Solitary, pair, or pride (6–10) Challenge Rating: 5 Treasure: None Alignment: Always neutral Advancement: 9–16 HD (Large); 17–24 HD (Huge) Level Adjustment: — [/CODE] OK, so you want to advance it to 12 HD. This doesn't change his size. But he does gain 2 feats, and one ability increase (All of the physical abilities seem good choices, but I'd go with STR ). His BAB raises to +9 (as cleric of 12 HD) His Base saves are +8/+8/+8. Notice that some animals (like this one) also have a good will save besides always having good Fort and Ref. Remember the claw has weapon focus. Finnally, you have 4 skill points to distribute. I'd raise Spot and Listen by 2. I believe they're "racial" skills for animals. The feats I'd choose are Multiattack (-2 to bite instead of -5). And Improved Natural Attack [Claw] (1d8 instead of 1d6). The bite could also go up, but ther are more claw attacks, and it generally ties in with the weapon focus. [CODE] Fiendish DIRE LION Large Animal Hit Dice: 12d8+36 (90 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares) Armor Class: 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13 Base Attack/Grapple: +9/+21 Attack: Claw +17 melee (1d8+8) Full Attack: 2 claws +17 melee (1d8+8) and bite +14 melee (1d8+4) Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d8+4 Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent, DR 10/magic, Smite Good (+12 Dmg), Cold and Fire resistance 10, SR 17, Darkvision 60'. Saves: Fort +11, Ref +10, Will +9 Abilities: Str 26, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 3, Wis 12, Cha 10 Skills: Hide +2*, Listen +9, Move Silently +5, Spot +9 Feats: Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw), Multiattack, Improved Natural Attack (Claw). Challenge Rating: 8 (+1 for extra 3HD +2 for template) [/CODE] Hope this helped. [/QUOTE]

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