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<blockquote data-quote="ajanders" data-source="post: 5377004" data-attributes="member: 3271">Family politicsWhat is the relationship between the older brother and the father? The older brother may be a powerful figure in his own right, but he may consider it appropriate for the girl's father to make the decision, and if he makes the quest too stiff, he pre-disqualifies the lover.If the older brother is good, he's probably not going to create a test where death is the penalty for failure.Oh, and if necromancy is frowned upon in the campaign the test isn't going to consist of going up against his skeleton army.The best test might be a pure roleplaying test of character. The older brother takes the lover out sparring or hunting and pretends to be unimpressed with their prowess. (Depending on how well the character does, he may not need to pretend much...but don't let the young lover die.)He lectures the young lover about his failings until he feels about three inches tall, then writes a letter to his father containing &quot;his serious recommendation&quot;. It should sound like he's writing a report card of all F's. Then he seals the letter, casts the spell, and sends the young lover off to meet Daddy.The sparring, of course, isn't the test. The test is: will the young lover grit his teeth and hand a critical evaluation over to his prospective father in law?Or will he break the seal/substitute a letter?If the letter gets to Daddy seal unbroken, it probably has some trenchant criticism of his sword work, but closes with the line. &quot;If he was brave and honest enough to bring this to you seal unbroken, I think he is fit to marry my sister.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ajanders, post: 5377004, member: 3271"] [b]Family politics[/b] What is the relationship between the older brother and the father? The older brother may be a powerful figure in his own right, but he may consider it appropriate for the girl's father to make the decision, and if he makes the quest too stiff, he pre-disqualifies the lover. If the older brother is good, he's probably not going to create a test where death is the penalty for failure. Oh, and if necromancy is frowned upon in the campaign the test isn't going to consist of going up against his skeleton army. The best test might be a pure roleplaying test of character. The older brother takes the lover out sparring or hunting and pretends to be unimpressed with their prowess. (Depending on how well the character does, he may not need to pretend much...but don't let the young lover die.) He lectures the young lover about his failings until he feels about three inches tall, then writes a letter to his father containing "his serious recommendation". It should sound like he's writing a report card of all F's. Then he seals the letter, casts the spell, and sends the young lover off to meet Daddy. The sparring, of course, isn't the test. The test is: will the young lover grit his teeth and hand a critical evaluation over to his prospective father in law? Or will he break the seal/substitute a letter? If the letter gets to Daddy seal unbroken, it probably has some trenchant criticism of his sword work, but closes with the line. "If he was brave and honest enough to bring this to you seal unbroken, I think he is fit to marry my sister." [/QUOTE]

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