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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tzeentch" data-source="post: 1313500" data-attributes="member: 13222">-- Not familiar with how Redstone Arsenal updates its designations.-- I don't think a single Stinger was fired during the entire conflict.-- Also the fact that many of the numbers have little to no game utility and translated VERY badly. For example, I cannot think of a SINGLE RPG or boardgame that tries to model kinematic performance of missiles (i.e. how many G's it can pull, slew rate of its sensors, motor burn time/thrust, streamlining, etc.). Most just give a speed a range (like GURPS) which is misleading at best. For SAMs you have other issues with the fact that it's fighting gravity and has to accelerate very rapidly to catch a crossing target.-- Well, it had some discriminatory capability but it really sucked (1.7- to 2.8-µm band). That and it's maneuver vanes sucked, the blast warhead was not directed, the launch electronics were primitive, production quality sucked ... it's amazing any hit at all. But they proved to be fairly effective against hovering helicopters and prop-drive aircraft and that's about it (spelled the end of cheap COIN aircraft, these things are why you don't see Skyraiders around).-- It can also lock onto the ground if terrain is in the background heh. Not that the Redeye was very superior <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> By modern standards they were little better then shooting bottle rockets.-- There was a four year period between the 9K32 complex and 9K32M. I have no idea how widespread the original or upgraded models were though, it could have only been in service for a little bit with some units.-- I'm not sure how much a knockoff the 9M32M seeker head is. The FIM-43C seeker is cooled lead sulfide, the 9M32M is lead sulfide but lacks cooling. Ironically the 9M32M does have a greater track rate and spectral range then the FIM-43C. You may be thinking of the R-3 (AA-2 Atoll) which is a DIRECT copy of the AIM-9 except where they had to substitute parts because the local industry couldn't make them exactly the same.-- I'd like to see some optional rules, because treating them all the same is pretty silly.-- Thanks for the replies</blockquote>

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