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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6886818" data-attributes="member: 6701872">No, it isn't.Unless the conclusion reached by reading this thread can be demonstrated as genuinely impossible for the character to have come up with - such as phrasing the wish in Latin while Latin is not a language that exists within the game world of the character - then it is not possible to be certain that the character had not arrived at the resultant wish by such means as dumb-luck, common sense, or the sum of life experiences not detailed during the period of time which campaign play has covered. Because that is true, that the person that the character would be if only they were a real entity separate from the player could have gotten the wording of the wish that the player uses by different means than the player did, then the only possible meta-gaming in this instance is for the player to willingly choose poorly in misguided attempt to not meta-game, or the DM insisting that because the player is actually using advice from a forum rather than just blurting out some thought of their own that a different course of action must be taken.Basically, either you really do separate the player and character's knowledge - including giving the character the benefit of guessing correctly at things the player knows to be true - or you force meta-gaming to happen in the claimed attempt of avoiding meta-gaming, because meta-gaming is an illusion that some DM made up back in the day to screw-over their players by making them over-think things and completely miss that knowing the idea is a good one is not actually necessary for the character to decide to try whatever the idea happens to be, so that the player knows it is a good idea is entirely irrelevant - assuming the goal is to avoid the use of player knowledge that the character doesn't share dictating the character's actions, that is.</blockquote>

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