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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6125777" data-attributes="member: 42582">Yep - though one of the PCs died at 2nd level, so the drow sorcerer came in at 3rd. And the deva invoker/wizard started out as a human wizard, and was rebuilt following resurrection around 16th level.They're pretty good - they tend to synergise well in play, and have pretty good healing management to keep the party up.The builds range in effectiveness. The sorcerer seems (to me at least, and I don't hang out on char ops) pretty optimised, with an at-will Blazing Starfall attacking a burst 2 for 2d4+1d10+42. He also has Resist Thunder, Lightning, Fire and Poison from a mix of character features and items, plus variable resistance from his paragon path, plus variable resistance from a Demonskin Tattoo. At various times he has been multiclassed as an assassin, a bard, a cutthroat and a monk (drow-fu) - but has now gone back to bard so as to get Walk Among the Fey to boost his Unlucky Teleport, which combines with his Mark of Storms and his Thunder Admixture. He uses his Cloud of Darkness, Dominant Winds and his Pillar of Earth (6th level utility from Heroes of the Elemental Chaos) to keep himself out of, or safe within, the fray.The ranger-cleric is not as optimised, but is still not too bad with Twin Strike at 2d12+12 times two, +3d8 Quarry - and plenty of immediate actions for between-rounds damage boosts.The fighter's damage is not all that high, but his control is very strong; and with over 160 hit points and a surge value of 50 when bloodied plus a Cloak of the Walking Wounded he is pretty resilient - I remeber that in one recent fight he took over 400 hp of damage and was still in the thick of things at the end of it. The paladin is a mix of implement and weapon attacks, and the weapon is a khopesh which I don't think all that highly of (but it opens up the Turathi weapon training feat); but he is also hard to take down. His to hit and damage pick up markedly against bloodied foes (tiefling, gauntlets of blood, bloodthirsty weapon).The invoker is probably the weakest in combat - certainly the fewest hit points (just over 100 at 21st level), very little damage, but quite a bit of control, especially blindness - but is also the party ritualist and sage, and in combat has the key utilities like Astral Step and Arcane Gate, as well as sliding allies via various invoker riders.Between them they cover most of the bases. To apply pressure, I generally have to run multiple encounters (4 to 7+) of well above average party level (+2 to +4) so that surges and dailies start to wear down.</blockquote>

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