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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GunnerRecall10" data-source="post: 5514379" data-attributes="member: 98517">Hello all,In the last year or so, my friend and I have been running campaigns for our group of friends (Pathfinder Rules).  He has been able to keep almost the same campaign going, while I have not.  The reason being is that a few different people are playing mine as compared to his, people that play VERY casually, compared to the way we run his.As a result, I started second darkness, and ended up dropping it because it was a bit of a problem, I ran into problems with the way that people were running their characters that conflicted with the story, but that was not  the biggest reason i decided to stop the campaign.  The last two sessions people were not as serious as id like them to be.  Im all for having fun playing the game, but when its just all joking around and sidetracking the game, then the game doesnt have a point of continuing in my opinion.  The fun of the game should be in playing the game itself, not coming to hang out.So, we really enjoyed our two campaigns a week we found out, and one of my other less imaginative friends took to running a game.  It has been nothing short of dreadful, honestly.  Three of the players (myself included) had died last week, and he waiting two and a half hours to just introduce our characters.  He has a weird style of having his NPCs roleplay, its just overall boring, and dragged out.  To add to that, the other DM and I have been telling him things to do to help improve the campaign.  While he does them like we say, its just like were running the campaign.So I picked up the new Pathfinder AP Carrion Crown and ran it for a week.  Everyone loved it, and everyone was participating much more than usual.  However, most of my gamers believe in overall friendship over DnD.  They believe that my other friend had his campaign first because I quit mine.  They said that although its boring, maybe itll improve when he gets better at DMing.  Now the three of us that are bored want to tell him that we are going to be running mine, but we know that the other two players wont agree, while the DM will see our points, however may be secretly disappointed.I can agree with this on normal circumstances, however, having a lesser imagination and DMing isnt the best combination.  Even if he had the time slot first, isnt it about having fun playing the game and not suffering through 3 more weeks of overall boringness?ADVICE PLEASE!  I realize ill hear most of what I already know, however fresh opinions would be nice!</blockquote>

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