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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8726740" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>does not charm and dominate already do this? </p><p>we HAVE effects for this.</p><p></p><p>the same way you don't (out of game) get mad that a NPC or PC spent a single action to dominated you to attack your party healer... now your character most likely wont like it when it wares off... why would if be worse if over a 10 min period you and a maste manipulator had a mental show down that ended with you being dominated or charmed... cause again when it wares off or is countered (deprograming even works on cult members) your character can hate the person.</p><p></p><p>I would think so... a group of grifters can most likely not only get you to do X that you don't want to...but make you think it was your own idea in the first place...</p><p></p><p>the 'crazy' one everyone used to use on here was "No matter how high your bluff is you can't bluff the king into giving you his kingdom"</p><p></p><p>but I bet you could...set up a false identity as his nephew (since his brother disappeared) start by not wanting to impose... another character is impersonating the kings advisor and warns that there is some new threat... other party members make that threat look real. The 'new nephew' is set up to save the king from a threat that isn't really there... but the king feels he owes him and the advisor 'reluctantly' says you could give him a duke or baron title, but there are none available... and when the king says he can just make one 'it's good to be the king' the advisor says 'oh once in history your great great great grandfather made a position that was basically duke of the palace, and hiar to the thrown, but I don't think you want... and the king says he is going to do it since he has no kids of his own... yeah you just went from 2 warriors a fast talking rogue and a warlock that can disguise self at will to being a heart beat from king... oh and the king is sure it was his idea...</p><p></p><p>entire con man shows and movies are written like this... "Lets go steal us a kingdom"</p><p></p><p>and here is the best part... in the middle of 1 con you might need something and that whole paragraph of a month or three's work could be a montage so that you then have the character having access to the kingdom for the other con.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8726740, member: 67338"] does not charm and dominate already do this? we HAVE effects for this. the same way you don't (out of game) get mad that a NPC or PC spent a single action to dominated you to attack your party healer... now your character most likely wont like it when it wares off... why would if be worse if over a 10 min period you and a maste manipulator had a mental show down that ended with you being dominated or charmed... cause again when it wares off or is countered (deprograming even works on cult members) your character can hate the person. I would think so... a group of grifters can most likely not only get you to do X that you don't want to...but make you think it was your own idea in the first place... the 'crazy' one everyone used to use on here was "No matter how high your bluff is you can't bluff the king into giving you his kingdom" but I bet you could...set up a false identity as his nephew (since his brother disappeared) start by not wanting to impose... another character is impersonating the kings advisor and warns that there is some new threat... other party members make that threat look real. The 'new nephew' is set up to save the king from a threat that isn't really there... but the king feels he owes him and the advisor 'reluctantly' says you could give him a duke or baron title, but there are none available... and when the king says he can just make one 'it's good to be the king' the advisor says 'oh once in history your great great great grandfather made a position that was basically duke of the palace, and hiar to the thrown, but I don't think you want... and the king says he is going to do it since he has no kids of his own... yeah you just went from 2 warriors a fast talking rogue and a warlock that can disguise self at will to being a heart beat from king... oh and the king is sure it was his idea... entire con man shows and movies are written like this... "Lets go steal us a kingdom" and here is the best part... in the middle of 1 con you might need something and that whole paragraph of a month or three's work could be a montage so that you then have the character having access to the kingdom for the other con. [/QUOTE]
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