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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8727045" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>yeah... I was just thinking that. There was a 3.0 prestige class (I can't remember the name but in the first splat sword and fist) that made you batman light... you got cool powers but not if someone knew your name.</p><p></p><p>the problem was it never spelled out what your name meant (is it a magical true name, is it what your parents named you, is it any common name you accept and answer too?) I am going to give a little real life info about my name... it is Robert. that is what is on my birth certificate and all my pay checks... however I have also never in my life been in a class without another Robert. so here is all the (non insulting) names I have been called/known as Rob, Robby, Bob, Bobby, Beto, Bert, and Robert... plus sometimes just my last name (Sr year honors English) so to someone who knew me as Bobby, is that my name?</p><p></p><p>So when he introduced us to himself as hawk... everyone in town knew him as hawk, and he said that the only other people to know his real name died when he was a child (cause of course he was an orphan) nobody could ever use that weakness... but when pointed out that hawk had become his new name he got mad. Add to this we had a player at that time that for (reasons) had changed her name IRL, and got quite upset at the concept that if you change or choose a name it would not be a 'real name'...</p><p></p><p>Now we all knew this game would end up with PVP... but we got REALLY high like 15th level before it did. However the wizard had legend lore and wanted to use it to get "hawks" birth name and this caused an even BIGGER fight about what the word name means. </p><p></p><p>trying to hide facts leads to issues, and where "hawk" was not the only player doing the "I'm a lone wolf and no one can know me" routine I have to say that I can imagine that similar things would happen (and with NPCs too) if this was a more general rule</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8727045, member: 67338"] yeah... I was just thinking that. There was a 3.0 prestige class (I can't remember the name but in the first splat sword and fist) that made you batman light... you got cool powers but not if someone knew your name. the problem was it never spelled out what your name meant (is it a magical true name, is it what your parents named you, is it any common name you accept and answer too?) I am going to give a little real life info about my name... it is Robert. that is what is on my birth certificate and all my pay checks... however I have also never in my life been in a class without another Robert. so here is all the (non insulting) names I have been called/known as Rob, Robby, Bob, Bobby, Beto, Bert, and Robert... plus sometimes just my last name (Sr year honors English) so to someone who knew me as Bobby, is that my name? So when he introduced us to himself as hawk... everyone in town knew him as hawk, and he said that the only other people to know his real name died when he was a child (cause of course he was an orphan) nobody could ever use that weakness... but when pointed out that hawk had become his new name he got mad. Add to this we had a player at that time that for (reasons) had changed her name IRL, and got quite upset at the concept that if you change or choose a name it would not be a 'real name'... Now we all knew this game would end up with PVP... but we got REALLY high like 15th level before it did. However the wizard had legend lore and wanted to use it to get "hawks" birth name and this caused an even BIGGER fight about what the word name means. trying to hide facts leads to issues, and where "hawk" was not the only player doing the "I'm a lone wolf and no one can know me" routine I have to say that I can imagine that similar things would happen (and with NPCs too) if this was a more general rule [/QUOTE]
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