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<blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 901981" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Okay, I just saw reloaded and while I liked it, I did have a few problems with some things.</p><p></p><p>First, the rave at the temple and the Neo/Trinity love scene. It was very akward and stopped the movie dead in its tracks for me. It reminded me of the topless woman in Demolition Man. Y'know, a sex scene tossed in after the fact because a producer thought there wasn't enough sex.</p><p></p><p>And some of the FX were lacking. One panning scene in particular caused some blurring on some of the Smiths in the big Smith/Neo fight.</p><p></p><p>Also, and I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but, while the highway chase and battle were excellent, all those other cars were being driven presumably by normal people trapped in the matrix. So, with all the crashes, dozens of people were probably killed. And none of the characters seemed to care.</p><p></p><p>Which leads us to my biggest complaint: a lack of the humanity found in the first one. All the characters were all too cool. Plus so many of the character weren't even human, just programs, so that didn't help.</p><p></p><p>And I was confused about the French guy. Was he a program? If so, why was he interested in sex? And if his wife is also a program, why was she jealous?</p><p></p><p>One thing I really did like was the return of a rogue Smith. I must admit I hated the character in the 1st one, but I like the fact that we have what is in effect 2 villains; the larger, more powerful matrix, and the wild card Smith.</p><p></p><p>It was also nice to see Gina "Firefly" Torres in a cameo. It's not really surprising, though, considering she's Mrs. Lawrence Fishburn.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually a bit surprised that, while someone mentioned the "Matrix sound" when Persephone kissed Neo, no one mentioned that she applied lipstick before kissing Neo. Was she infecting him with a virus? Or did he upgrade him with a new code? Maybe this is the reason he could affect the outside world?</p><p></p><p>Okay, I kind of doubt that part. Personally, I think that Neo has become so connected to the matrix (or perhaps was just different in some way from the other Ones) that he can now effect the system without jacking in. </p><p></p><p>But the matrix within a matrix idea is interesting. Has anyone considered that the entire film is taking place within a computer and we'll discover that Neo, Trinity, etc are all programs? Maybe the 3rd film will end with Neo destroying the matrix and the citizens of Zion cheering. We pull back farther and farther until we actually pull out of a computer. We see a Dilbert-looking nerd in a cubicle tapping on the keyboard, muttering, "Damn systems crashed again." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Villano, post: 901981, member: 505"] Okay, I just saw reloaded and while I liked it, I did have a few problems with some things. First, the rave at the temple and the Neo/Trinity love scene. It was very akward and stopped the movie dead in its tracks for me. It reminded me of the topless woman in Demolition Man. Y'know, a sex scene tossed in after the fact because a producer thought there wasn't enough sex. And some of the FX were lacking. One panning scene in particular caused some blurring on some of the Smiths in the big Smith/Neo fight. Also, and I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but, while the highway chase and battle were excellent, all those other cars were being driven presumably by normal people trapped in the matrix. So, with all the crashes, dozens of people were probably killed. And none of the characters seemed to care. Which leads us to my biggest complaint: a lack of the humanity found in the first one. All the characters were all too cool. Plus so many of the character weren't even human, just programs, so that didn't help. And I was confused about the French guy. Was he a program? If so, why was he interested in sex? And if his wife is also a program, why was she jealous? One thing I really did like was the return of a rogue Smith. I must admit I hated the character in the 1st one, but I like the fact that we have what is in effect 2 villains; the larger, more powerful matrix, and the wild card Smith. It was also nice to see Gina "Firefly" Torres in a cameo. It's not really surprising, though, considering she's Mrs. Lawrence Fishburn. I'm actually a bit surprised that, while someone mentioned the "Matrix sound" when Persephone kissed Neo, no one mentioned that she applied lipstick before kissing Neo. Was she infecting him with a virus? Or did he upgrade him with a new code? Maybe this is the reason he could affect the outside world? Okay, I kind of doubt that part. Personally, I think that Neo has become so connected to the matrix (or perhaps was just different in some way from the other Ones) that he can now effect the system without jacking in. But the matrix within a matrix idea is interesting. Has anyone considered that the entire film is taking place within a computer and we'll discover that Neo, Trinity, etc are all programs? Maybe the 3rd film will end with Neo destroying the matrix and the citizens of Zion cheering. We pull back farther and farther until we actually pull out of a computer. We see a Dilbert-looking nerd in a cubicle tapping on the keyboard, muttering, "Damn systems crashed again." :) [/QUOTE]
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