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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arken" data-source="post: 902279" data-attributes="member: 3469">Re: Stuff that Still Has me Wracking My BrainI think that he dreamt what we saw but that at this point he does not realise he 'has the sight' of the oracle program to see the future of the matrix. Therefore at this point he jsut thinks it's a bad, bad dream I suppose (and so is actually surprised by the 'reality' of multiple Smiths). Later after the oracle has revealed that his 'sight' is true he starts to act on it telling trinity not to go into the matrix after having seen her shot in a dream. It sort of represented to me that to an extent Neo has internalised the matris which interlinked for me with his ability to affect machines in the real world. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Just my interpretation though.I thought the oracle was refering to the Merilvingion(sp?) in the statement about powerful men though the assesment could well apply to smith aswell. I think Smith has turned into a direct counter-agent to 'The One' program therefore he is compelled to try and kill Neo. Specifically in the real world  though I'm not sure of his goals as it seems to be suggested he was working towards the furthering of the goals of the machines (by betraying the Zion counterattack) but this would seem to conflict with the idea of him as a rogue program that hates 'control'. I don't know about 'purpose' in copying himself either really, he is performing like a virus but it doesn't seem like a 'conquest' thing so far.I must admit I had no clue why he was cutting himself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I agree with 'B' nothing else would seem to make sense from the characters already revealed however if the oracle was such an integral 'mother' program to the matrix why did the merilvingion suggest that her time was nearly up. Also the tone of the architect did sound more like A. I don't know but am assuming that it WAS the oracle at this point. I think that if the one chooses the source then they can't 'conceal' facts. However the way I interpreted the scene was as a crystilisation of the 'problem' of choice. The One, whilst being the carrier of the stability of the matrix (by the 'remainder') is also by its nature human and therefore embodies the problem with humanity as being imperfect. All that can be done, therefore, is to construct huge amounts of the matrix with the only goal being to get the One to the source and to get the one to make the 'right' choice. The oracle leads him to the source, the keymaker's purpose is to get him to the source etc. The One must be given a choice because he embodies 'choice'. If that makes sense <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Yep, the previous matrices could have been anything, not even from history even.On the second point I got the impression that the world is a blasted wrreckage with the war going so far back in history and memory that the details cannot be remembered. Morpheus says he doesn't know who blasted the sky etc. Therefore wreckages etc. wouldn't be too surprising.Really good questions! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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