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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9373055" data-attributes="member: 7026617">I do have to point out at least with potentially hostile NPCs, part of the reason you could do that there is that the encounter system was progressively more loose and sloppy as you got up in level; CR worked worse and worse, and generally tended to favor PCs, so you were having to learn to eyeball it anyway, and it was likely to fail in favor of the PCs.  Neither of these is true with PF2e.</blockquote>