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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9375642" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Which means less and less over time, as a bigger and bigger part of your damage comes from the weapon.&nbsp; In addition, you have additional tools against some opponents at least the first three of these do not have in terms of Words.&nbsp; The accuracy is balanced out with your better AC (I'm entirely clear on what the difference was because my wife was playing a fighter/rogue at the same time, and it was frankly almost invisible.&nbsp; My AC advantage was slightly more visible, but not dramatically so).Because they have to disengage and you're still perfectly capable of tripping them when they try, which operates largely independent of your class since you can still have plenty enough Athletics to make it work.&nbsp; Further, if they ignore you, you follow them and keep leaving them with a set of bad choices, at least as a Redeemer.It comes down to the fact they can certainly ignore you, if they don't mind constantly taking your reaction power.&nbsp; I've yet to see a monster that found that exactly attractive.I never found that much of an impediment.I mean, seriously, man, did you see one in play over an extended period?&nbsp; Because I'm telling you flat out that I played one up to 20 and he held up his end perfectly fine.&nbsp; He wasn't quite as reliable a damage doer as the figher/rogue, but the gap wasn't so large as to be overwhelming.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 9375642, member: 7026617"] Which means less and less over time, as a bigger and bigger part of your damage comes from the weapon. In addition, you have additional tools against some opponents at least the first three of these do not have in terms of Words. The accuracy is balanced out with your better AC (I'm entirely clear on what the difference was because my wife was playing a fighter/rogue at the same time, and it was frankly almost invisible. My AC advantage was slightly more visible, but not dramatically so). Because they have to disengage and you're still perfectly capable of tripping them when they try, which operates largely independent of your class since you can still have plenty enough Athletics to make it work. Further, if they ignore you, you follow them and keep leaving them with a set of bad choices, at least as a Redeemer. It comes down to the fact they can certainly ignore you, if they don't mind constantly taking your reaction power. I've yet to see a monster that found that exactly attractive. I never found that much of an impediment. I mean, seriously, man, did you see one in play over an extended period? Because I'm telling you flat out that I played one up to 20 and he held up his end perfectly fine. He wasn't quite as reliable a damage doer as the figher/rogue, but the gap wasn't so large as to be overwhelming. [/QUOTE]

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