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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5535849" data-attributes="member: 42582">I agree that 4e combat plays differently from earlier editions, but I don't think you can make the comparison just in terms of hit points/abilities.4e combat is specifically designed to have a certain pacing/rhythm - the monsters, with their generally greater hit points and more straightforward damage-dealing abilities start out on top, but then the PCs, with their deeper resources to draw on (healing surges able to be accessed in various ways, action points, encounter/daily powers etc) turn the tables and eventually win the fight. In the course of drawing on these deeper resources, the players typically have to engage in a more complex way with the game's action economy (complex triggered actions, subtle options for movement and minors, etc) and work together as a team.At least in my experience, just playing AD&D or 3E at 5th level won't deliver these particular features of 4e play and a 4e PC.</blockquote>